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I can't be the first one to have thought of this right?
Stupid people are big fans of elixirs made out of the
parts of
endangered animals. Anything can be synthesized, so
why not
synthesize rhino horn and sell it to stupid
people so they'll leave the real animals alone?
I'm usually against
fake products taking advantage of
morons,
but in this case it's for the greater good.
I post this knowing full well somebody has to have
thought of
this before no?
Rhinos...
http://apnews.myway...0404/D9TU21IG0.html
[doctorremulac3, Apr 04 2012]
...tigers...
http://blogs.landfo...chingtcm/economics/
[doctorremulac3, Apr 04 2012]
...bears.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bile_bear
Don't click this one if you've got a weak stomach. [doctorremulac3, Apr 04 2012]
BBC: Rhino horn raiders steal replicas from Tring museum
http://www.bbc.co.u...ucks-herts-14693144
Stupid thieves. [hippo, Apr 04 2012]
Chinese_20medicine_20scam
//I can't be the first one to have thought of this right?// Right. [spidermother, Apr 05 2012]
In the oven
http://www.snopes.c...ino-horn-developed/
[notexactly, Mar 27 2017]
And yet again, the HB paves the way to the future.
https://www.cnn.com...scli-scn/index.html
[doctorremulac3, Nov 10 2019]
Doctorremulac3's Rhino Rodeo
https://www.shutter...ing-rhino-351249578
C'mon down padnas, bring the younguns! [doctorremulac3, Nov 10 2019]
What various zoo animals taste like.
https://www.mentalf...r-zoo-animals-taste
No rhino mentioned. Hippo and elephant. Probably similar. [doctorremulac3, Nov 10 2019]
Injecting rhino horns to make them radioactive?
https://www.straits...ti-poaching-arsenal
[doctorremulac3, May 24 2021]
Vietnam and China are the biggest consumers of rhino horn.
https://theconversa...at-they-said-116307
I though the one single advantage of having a totalitarian fascist government was that you could tell people not to do stupid things. [doctorremulac3, May 24 2021]
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...before no?
Is this BC or AD? |
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Just want to clarify, this would not be fake, it would
be government certified actual synthesized
endangered animal part. You'd appeal to the morons
small sliver of intellect that understands that we
really can synthesize anything these days. |
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Hell, maybe even throw in a little Viagra to make it
actually do something. |
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How strange, I was thinking of way to give bears fake gall bladders about 4 hours ago. It all means nothing. |
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I'm not so sure about the "anything can be synthesized" part. Can you back that up? |
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I too question the assertion that _anything_ can be
synthesized; that smacks of Star Trek tech to me.
However, if the components and ratios of a substance can
be determined via mass spec, shirley there's a good chance
it can be recreated in powdered form? |
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My bun has already been thrown, but I must add my
compliments for this 'bake. Anything that benefits the
sacred rhinoceros deserves the full gratitude of the
masses. |
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rhinos and tigers and bears... oh my. |
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Sure, everything in the universe is made of of
some combination of elements from the periodic
chart. Rhino horn is probably just keratin, or
collagen or
some kind of protein thing that could easily be
duplicated. The problem you get into is that
chemists usually
work trying to synthesize "active ingredients". So
what do you tell the chemist when you want to
synthesize something that has no active
ingredients? It's almost more of a problem of
semantics than chemistry. |
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That being said, throw rhino horn into a mass
spectrometer as suggested, find out what's in it
and throw those ingredients into a display bottle
with a picture of a muscular guy surrounded by
hot women and call it "Rhino Horn Essence Boner
Juice". Then have an official government label
(because if the government say is, it must be
true) that says "Contains the government certified
exact same ingredients as rhino horn." The stupid
get to spend their money on
something stupid and no rhinos get killed.
Besides, who's going to return it and say "I've still
got a small wiener, this must not be pure rhino
horn! I want my money back!" |
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You know, reading that BBC piece makes me think
they should just load the market with actual fake
molded rhino horns to glut the market and lower
the price down to where it's not worth killing real
rhinos. We can put a man on the moon, we can
make
rhino horns that will fool people stupid enough to
trade in rhino horns. (And yes, I claim credit for
the term "actual fake") |
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The horn of the Holy Rhinoceros is indeed mostly keratin,
with a few simple carbon chains and a smattering of
magical unobtainium, which gives the sacred beast his
almighty powers. |
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1) Saturate the market with fake rhino horn.
2) Create an inexpensive rhino horm test kit.
3) Sell the test kit at or below cost to corner the market on test kits.
4) Start modifying the chemistry of the test kit so it will test positive for your "actual fake" rhino horns.
5) After a while, modify the chemistry again so it will test positive for freshly harvested rhino horn as well as the "actual fakes", but will test negative on real rhino horn that has been detatched from the rhino for more than a week or two.
6) Get some false media attention about made up instances of violence among rhino harvesting poachers and dealers who are stealing real rhino horns from their associates and replacing them with fakes.
7) This seed of doubt along with the updated test kits will cause actual problems amoung poachers and dealers, reducing their effectiveness and profitability.
8) Corner the market on rhino horns with "actual fake" rhino horns sold at a premium price due to the upheaval in the normal supply chain.
9) Collect lots of money.
10) Build a very large secure compond for protection in preparation for the time when people finally catch on. |
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You had me at #1, but I especially like the addition
of #9. |
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//everything in the universe is made of of some
combination of elements from the periodic chart.
Rhino horn is probably just keratin, or collagen
or...// |
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//I can't be the first one to have thought of this
right?// |
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Spot on. I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of
rhino-horn-powder and tiger todger are fake already. |
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What most people don't realize, though, is that
most of the (allegedly small) population of rhinos
are themselves fake. |
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You know, I had thought about that. (The fake
tiger todger, not the fake rhinos) Why on earth
would somebody go through all the trouble and
expense of procuring real rhino horn when I
guarantee I can whip up a reasonable analog with
material that probably costs pennies a
pound? Do people know the difference? It's not
like drugs where you either get high or don't. Any
effect on the libido, sexual performance or
manhood size is placebo effect anyway. I also
doubt people have test kits. |
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You can't go to a slaughter house, get all the bull
wieners and grind them up to sell as tiger dong
tea? No, we're actually going to go to Africa and
risk getting shot by park rangers (who will kill you
over
there) or arrested at the airport to bring in the
real stuff. |
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Clearly there's something I'm missing about this
industry. |
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//Clearly there's something I'm missing about this
industry.// |
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There is. It's moved on a lot in the last couple of
decades. Low sodium rhino horn, low cholesterol
tiger willy, probiotic river dolphin... the market
demands more these days. |
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I have a simpler solution to the rhino/elephant/tiger
poaching problem: |
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Step 1: anyone caught poaching endangered or protected
animals will be shot in the head with a .45. |
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Step 2: there is no Step 2. |
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Were I in the position, I would do it myself. I mean that.
I'm not boasting. |
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//Anyone caught poaching endangered or protected
animals will be shot in the head with a .45. // |
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Cue "Quite right too. Casseroling brings out the
flavour so much better." joke. |
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//Sure, everything in the universe is made of of some combination of elements from the periodic chart.// As it happens, nearly everything in the universe is _not_ made up of elements at all. Obvious examples are light and black holes, but there are many more, and collectively they outmass ordinary atomic matter. |
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Rhino stem cells? If there's that much money in this, and there probably is, then set up a cloned rhino bits institute, part of the proceeds go to rhino conservation. |
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// As it happens, nearly everything in the universe is
_not_ made up of elements at all. // |
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The universe's primary constituent by volume is nothing,
which definitely promotes your assertion. |
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// part of the proceeds go to rhino conservation // |
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Good, we're running low on ammo. |
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Not everything is a thing. To be a "thing"
people would have to commonly refer to it as
such. |
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You never hear: Q- "What is light?" A-"It's that
thing that comes out of a lightbulb when you turn
it on." |
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Light would be more accurately referred to as
"stuff". |
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//Not everything is a thing// You are hoist with your own petard. I would suggest that 'everything' is not the same as 'every thing'. By your own admission, 'everything' comprises things and non-things, including, presumably, stuff. |
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// As it happens, nearly everything in the universe is _not_ made up of elements at all. Obvious examples are light and black holes // Luckily we have yet to discover black holes inside a rhino horn, and the light is easy enough to replace once it leaks out, so in this case I think me might be okay making the synthesized rhino horn out of just elements. |
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//Anyone caught poaching endangered or protected animals will be shot in the head with a .45. //
Which was almost precisely the method adopted by Richard Leakey when he was Director of Wildlife in Kenya. Poachers (defined as being "anyone in a wildlife reserve who isn't a warden") were shot, without warning. ("Almost" because I think a .303 was used.)
As to the idea, I suspect that a price premium would develop for non-synthesized product, just as one has for organic vegetables. |
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There is a problem with the allure of the exotic which makes
rhino horn more expensive. This kind of thing is a major
problem for me as people perceive the exotic as more
worthwhile than remedies which allegedly do the same thing. In
a sense, there is such a thing as fake rhino horn, in two
botanical forms: false unicorn root and true unicorn root: one is
"genuine fake" rhino horn and the other "fake fake" rhino horn.
As it happens, for the first time ever someone made an enquiry
yesterday about false unicorn root, and on doing the maths i
realised i couldn't justify selling if for under four gross quid a
half-litre so it ain't gonna happen. |
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One thing which would definitely be an interesting approach
here would be to manufacture products which are therapeutic,
popular or nutritious but not veggie, such as chondroitin, from
vegetable sources, particularly certain fatty acids. |
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Historically it was common for parts of mythical animals to pop
up here and there like religious relics, including of course the
alicorn (narwhal tusk passed off as a unicorn horn) but also
gryphon claws (antelope horns i think). A few of these have
hung over in linguistic terms, such as the two unicorn roots and
of course dragon's blood. They are in fact very annoying
because they carry a kudos which is undeserved and distorts
their value. However,that presumably means they sometimes
have a stronger placebo effect. |
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Also a good idea would be fake shark fin for making shark fin soup out of. |
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Maybe ask whoever it is that owns the mock turtle farm if they have any ideas of branching out? |
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I'm not sure but it seems quite likely than shark fin soup would be high in chondroitin but that was probably partly what you meant, [hippo]. |
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Well quite - imagine a vast, industrial
cod-processing factory which takes cod and produces fishfingers. The head and bones of the cod could be converted into fertilizer but there's probably more profit for the factory in grinding up the bones, mixing them with a binding agent and manufacturing millions of fake shark fins. |
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// Which was almost precisely the method adopted by
Richard Leakey // |
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Yes, and though I was a teenager at the time, my
burgeoning obsession with rhinoceroses made me a huge
fan of his policy. Unfortunately, he was driven out only
four years later. |
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I wonder what's responsible for the flavour of a particular meat.
I've heard it suggested that it's to do with the specific
combination of fat and muscle fibres, but i'd imagine proportions
of compounds would be important. Presumbly red meat is
saltier and higher in haemoglobin than white and maybe has
more myoglobin, or the combination of triglycerides influences
the taste. Probably should just Google, shouldn't I? |
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Despite there being another idea up there for fake
Chinese herbal stuff, I'll leave this up because it's
for chemically identical, government certified
rhino/tiger parts as opposed to scam rhino/tiger
parts. |
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Not leaving it up because it's such an earth
shattering great idea but because some of the
annos are too interesting to just erase. |
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I think Jutta will probably grant some latitude on
this one. |
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//chemically identical, government certified
rhino/tiger parts as opposed to scam rhino/tiger
parts// There are so many levels of wrongth there. |
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//chemically identical, government certified//
Sounds like the system for government certification
of generic drugs. |
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Having most of the people in the government certified, while doing nothing for the rhinos, would certainly be a step forward for humanity. |
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certified civil servant organs ? |
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//I think Jutta will probably grant some latitude on this one.// |
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Perhaps, since it's to protect endangered species, Jutta would let us GM a tiger to spout a rhino horn, a shark fin, and bear's gall bladder. (I'd add elephant tusks to the mix, but that would be crazy.) |
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The tusks would be the easiest bit! They already have teeth and
are related to sabretooths and walruses, so they seem to have a
tendency already. The gall is also very probably straightforward
and may already be almost identical to ursine gall. Shark fins
are the most distant, but why not use a tiger shark? You could
start a rumour about the claspers. |
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Don't know if they got the idea from here, but I
obviously support it. |
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& there I was thinking I was going to have to point out
someone was channelling the BBC a couple of days behind the
news. |
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Then I saw the idea date :) |
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Now here's the problem with this I hate to say it, it
won't work. |
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As soon as the fact that this is ground up horse hair
gets out, the jig is up. How will they find out?
Well, CNN just posted the story for one thing. |
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This has to be an exact analog created from basic
elements created in the lab or it's a no go. The
ground up horse hair gambit's already been
exposed, it's done. |
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Come on scientiests, get it right. It's not like you're
doing anything on a Friday night, you've got plenty
of time. LOL. |
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//has to be an exact analog created from basic elements// |
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So we have to use keratin then? which horse hair is.. OK, I'm
not getting it [perplexed look] what was the problem again? |
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Actually you don't have to actually make any, as much of the
desired effect as you're likely to achieve can probably be had
simply by saying you have, so, releasing an article to world
media about it then. |
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As silly as it seems, you have to make a product
that sounds like real rhino horn that comes from a
laboratory because the idea is to get people to buy
this instead of real rhino horn. Nobody's buying
horse hair if they know it's horse hair. It has to be
made from scratch in the lab, it has to be sold as
such. |
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Nobody's buying horse hair once they find out
about it. Even if you say "It's the same." they'll say
"Yea, but it's just horse hair.". |
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I know it's a bit ludicrous, but this is a social
endevor, not a scientific endevor. |
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//they'll say "Yea, but it's just horse hair."// |
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Which is what you want, shirley. |
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I thought the idea was to devalue Rhino horn in the same
way
as you might attempt to devalue enemy currency to damage
their economy by dropping
oodles of forged notes over them. |
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Thus making the risk / benefit calculation for poachers less
attractive. |
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For that you label it as the real deal & flood the market
with
it. |
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Or take the cheap option & just say you have. |
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//I thought the idea was to devalue Rhino horn in the same way as you
might attempt to devalue enemy currency to damage their economy by
dropping oodles of forged notes over them.// |
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No, definitely not.
You sell it to them, through a variety of intermediaries, aiming to just
undercut the opposition, ideally at a variety of points along the chain.
Then you gradually lower the price until the market is saturated and it's not
worth poaching rhino. (The market may still be quite healthy at this
point.) |
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You may then make a press release about 'rare pink rhino horn' being twice
as effective as white or black rhino horn. This also makes reference to the
horn having some differences, such as colour striations. Whatever that is,
it's something which is easy to do during synthesis - maybe mixing in some
black horse-hair for example.
Then you can start releasing a small
amount of that onto the market for a premium.
Finally you can drop
the price of this to migrate as much of the market as possible onto this
product, and flood the market for the boring old standard horn with the
synthetic product. |
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Now you have a handy revenue stream to improve research into synthetic
tigerwang, or whatever else is left. |
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Couldn't have put it better myself. That's the idea, and I
think it actually would be worth
trying. |
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I'll add something else: Get all the most famous doctors,
the United Nations, medical professions of all the
countries of the world to write glowing reviews of the
medicinal properties of synthetic rhino horn placebo
effect. |
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Which is a real, scientifically provable thing. |
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[Loris], have you been taking those 'sales & marketing' courses
my personal chemist has been offering? |
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//lower the price until the market is saturated and its not
worth poaching elephants// |
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Interesting, so to make it not worth poaching Rhinos we sell
fake ivory, you've been to the Dirk Gently school of
holistic reasoning haven't you. |
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Do I detect a magna cum laude of that august establishment ? |
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Well, if you really think your way //won't work// [doc]
maybe
you should give my way a go anyway. |
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Sorry, didn't make it clear, the ground up horse hair won't
work, my way might. The word is out that this "imitation
rhino horn" is ground up horse hair. No magical
ingredients to enhance your "manhood". Here's the big
difference: (cue commercial music) aaaaand narrator! |
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Doctorremulac3's Super Manhorn tm SUPERCHARGES your
manhood. |
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It's the one thing rhino poachers selling weak harvested
rhino horn don't want you to know about. |
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manliness can't help me. Please refund my $19.95 so I can
go buy bullets to go shoot myself." |
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Yes but the thing is ground up horse hair & Rhino horn is
exactly the same thing so, perforce, anything you make in
the
lab will also be exactly the same as ground up horse hair..
so
the
same issue pertains, might as well just use the horsefair
then. |
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You can lie about it (being horse hair) if you think that
helps,
but there's no point wasting money making artificial horse
hair (aka : artificial Rhino horn) to pass off as the real deal
when nature's already done it for you. |
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//ground up horse hair & Rhino horn is exactly the same thing
so// Not quite. Give me a sample of each and I could tell
them apart. For one thing, I'd bet that the amino acids in
horse versus rhino keratin will be somewhat different. There
will be other differences too. But, in
any case, both of them will have DNA from their source. Of
course, at a pinch you could zap the DNA in your horse hair,
and spike in some rhino DNA instead. |
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//the thing is ground up horse hair & Rhino horn is
exactly the same thing// |
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This is about perception and more specifically, the
perceptions of stupid people. Hate to be cruel but
anybody thinking rhino horn is going to give them any
benefit is ignorant at least. Because of the weird
circumstances, we would need to cater to these ignorant
people to mitigate their effect on an endangered species. |
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The FDA isn't going to approve horse hair for improving
manhood. They might approve psychologically enhanced
placebo if the story was good enough. And if you paid
them enough. |
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This would be showmanship. Some silly but harmless
theater to counter another silly process but one that's
deleterious to an endangered species. |
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If you'd want a bit of science behind it, and that's fair
enough, call it a psychologically based plan to at least
slow the trade of a product that's devastating an animal
that's facing possible extinction. |
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You're not ripping anybody off, they're getting real
synthetic rhino horn that does the exact same thing as
real rhino horn. |
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Just buy a few of the remaining rhino horns, soak them in a
nice organophosphate, then re-release them onto the market.
"I took rhino horn and my dick fell off" is a great deterrent. |
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Well, that's creative at least. |
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I'm also all for just knocking rhinos out and harvesting
their
horns before the poachers get to them. |
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Although they'd probably kill them for the stumps. |
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Rhino farms: Raise tens of thousands of rhinos just to
harvest their horns. Drive the price down to say... 5 cents
a pound. |
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I'd be proud to farm rhinos. Come on down to
Doctorremulac3s rhino farm! Bring the kids! * Sorry, rhino
rides have been discontinued. |
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//knocking rhinos out and harvesting their horns before the
poachers get to them// I'm sure they do that already in some
places. |
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//Raise tens of thousands of rhinos just to harvest their
horns.// You didn't really think that through, doc. You are
going to have a surplus of hundreds of thousands of tons of
perfectly good, hamburgerable rhino meat. |
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(taps side of head) Mmmhmm. |
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I assume it tastes like chicken. See link. |
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By the way, you get into a weird philosophical conundrum
with farming animals. Is it better to let them go extinct
or farm them for food? |
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I think that's a no brainer myself. Just to clarify, farm
raised rhinos are OK to eat, wild poached not OK. Nor is
wild braised, barbecued or baked. OK to joke about this
stuff? No? OK. |
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//Interesting, so to make it not worth poaching Rhinos we
sell fake ivory, you've been to the Dirk Gently school of
holistic reasoning haven't you.// |
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Heh, just a braino. (now fixed)
All large quadrupeds are near as dammit to a molecular
biologist. |
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And you wonder why the breeding pair of saiga antelope I
sold you last summer haven't reproduced yet [snicker]. |
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Best
price I ever got for two neutered rams. |
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Create the myth for an even more potent medical
product additive; rhino hunter's extracted
adrenalin. Start marketing and selling it at a
ridiculously high price, then let the market forces
take over. |
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//Best price I ever got for two neutered rams.// |
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Oh, they wern't for breeding. I just needed the horns. |
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If you're a large mammal the best evolutionary strategies by far at the moment are to be cute, helpful, or delicious. If we just get rhinos to breed well in captivity they'll be fine. |
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Helpful? ... not noted for it. |
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Delicious? ... hmm? not really sure about this but I'll give it a
try, when do you seat your first customers? |
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If only this idea included fake tiger wang, I'd bun it. |
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Yea, about that... I put this on my facebook page
so,
well, cleaned it up a bit. Lot of kids in the family.
Don't want them knowing dad/uncle/grandpa uses
such salty language. |
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Yea, I know. Lots of monicals dropping into brandy
glasses hearing that since I know that, without a
doubt, I have the most lowbrow speaking style of
anybody on this website. |
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It'll be our little secret eh? |
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I think "wang" is OK. But I am often surprised at the
difference in acceptability of swearing in the US versus the
UK. Not taking sides, just saying it's very different. |
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Wang is a rude word? well bugger me sideways with a rusty
garden implement of unlikely dimensions! I was aware it saw
occasional use as a euphemism for certain male parts women
of a delicate disposition don't like to hear talked about in
public, but beyond the subject matter itself that it refers to
(when used as a euphemism) I'd not
have given it that status,
may explain Uncle Wangs difficulty in getting a visa last
summer. |
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I've always gotten along great with Brits when I was over
there. |
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They didn't even mind when I talked with a British accent
for some reason. (Only when I was drunk) Never been
accused of mocking them, they almost seemed to
appreciate it. It was like "Eh ahrite. He's knocked off the
annoying California accent, er's a good lad. Almost one of
us 'e is." |
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By the way, took out the lines with salty language so this
thread doesn't make sense any more. |
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As long as it's not Mockney or any other obviously fake one
why would anyone be offended? |
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Used to happen to me up in the counties, same on my
training cadre (only one from down south & got stuffed in a
barrack with
Scots) 24 hours drinking & talking with a group with a (to
you) strong accent & it begins to creep in. |
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How old were you, reason I ask is (for me) the effect seems
to have decreased with age, pretty sure I don't do it
anymore. |
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You might find it doesn't happen so much now (or takes longer
to set in) then. |
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When I was a child & in my early teens it
seemed (to me) to happen in just an hour or less, by my late
teens & twenties it took considerably longer between
exposure to the accent & beginning to unintentionally adopt
it. |
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Weird how that works. I had to stop myself from
doing that thing where some people make
statements but raise the tone of their voice at the
end like it’s a question? Happened after I had been
exposed to someone who did this after only a few
weeks? I think it sounds dumb? But it was totally
unintentional? |
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//Wang is a rude word? // Not necessarily. In England, it
can also mean something roughly akin to "throw", as in "'Ere,
wang us that spanner, wouldjamate?" |
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Also, it is heartening to know that certain types of bamboo, as
used for walking sticks and umbrella handles, are known as
whangee. I have an umbrella with a whangee handle, for no
other reason than that it allows me to say "whangee umbrella"
from time to time. |
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Has anyone considered a more direct approach? let's start a
rumour that ground poacher penis has aphrodisiac properties
& see what happens.. handle enough Rhino horn & it's
properties sort of rub off or something. |
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Why not just breed fast-growing rhinos ? |
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Cattle are full grown in two years. That's partly the result of selective breeding. Rhinos are just another herbivore. Farm them, sell the hide, meat, and horns. Select the ones with bigger horns, too. |
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Many, many rhinos; much money made on poor-quality grazing land; no need to kill wild rhinos. Ker-ching ! |
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There's nothing special about rhinos, or elephants, or tigers. Mr. Dimwit will pay top dollar for animal part (x). Very well; sell it to him. Want a leather coat ? That was a cow, or maybe a kangaroo. Want a kebab ? That was a sheep. Want a bacon buttie ? That was a pig, which also went to make that bloke's briefcase over there. |
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Enough with the whining and hand-wringing already ! Stop moralizing and make money instead, incidentally saving the wild population and their habitat at the same time. |
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I know you're halfway kidding but we saved the
buffalo (bison) that way. |
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Eat a rhino burger to save the rhinos? |
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You would have to make such a leap from emotion
to
logic to do that I don't think we're ready as a
civilization. The bison thing kind of happened
when
nobody was looking. Plus they sort of look like
cows
anyway. |
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Cows also don't kill you as much as rhinos do. |
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Oh yes they do. Cows are surprisingly dangerous; they don't need to exhibit aggression (they're bred to be docile) but they're stupid, heavy and very strong. A frightened cow can easily kill a human with no malicious intent, just fear and panic. |
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// Eat a rhino burger to save the rhinos? // |
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Why not ? If humans didn't eat beef, the cow population would plummet. |
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// make such a leap from emotion to logic to do that // |
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Awww, ikkle namby-pamby humans no want save rhino by obvious sensible, above all practical, means ... convince the Japs it's better than whalemeat and the humane killer will never get a chance to cool, never mind incidentally saving all those whales too ... |
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// I don't think we're ready as a civilization. // |
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Civilization is good, you should consider trying it out |
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Canned lion hunts with farm bred lions suffers from this,
not
interested myself, but when it comes to preservation of
that
species it's probably a more powerful tool than anything
else
in the
arsenal & brainless idiots want to stop it.. |
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The sensible move is let it carry on legally to provide the
idiots who want lion bits a legal alternative taking the
pressure of the wild population, tax it to pay for guards to
help protect the wild population & use it as a breeding pool
for reintroduction into the wild (if you want to) as needed. |
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Farm bred lions in South Africa already outnumber its wild
population 4 to
1 by the way, |
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So make it illegal as some would like & bang ! |
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You've reduced the South African lion
population by 80%. |
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Or you can just make the real horns radioactive. No,
I'm not kidding. (link) |
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