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They do that to sheep too. Since you'd pretty well have to bring the animal in to the vet to get it done, there's not that much difference, but it'd be worth looking into. |
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One point, though - if testicle-tying is already well-
known, this isn't exactly an invention... |
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Agreed, and I would further submit that for cats the objections include having to listen to the cat complain for a couple of weeks while you bathe in disinfectant and consume painkillers. Antibiotics are also de riguer for cat bites. |
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" its obviously pain free " - I'm going to venture that you've not done this yourself to any animals, or verified it by self experience. |
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But welcome to the Halfbakery - the help file is over there on the left, under "meta". How did you find us? |
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Yup, there's your problem, right there. |
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Easy fix - cull all the emotional people. The ones remaining won't
object to the stated idea, and will no doubt approve of the cull as
entirely logical and rational. Thus, it's a win-win situation. |
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I watched my dad do it to sheep many times. Why
would this have to require a trip to the vet? The
tool my dad used probably cost less than a trip to
the vet, and I bet someone could design a one-
time use kit for $5. Or better yet figure out an
easy-to use technique for tying using the rubber
band from the morning newspaper. |
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The problem is that it seems to people that it
would be painful. Now I'm sure there is some
amount of pain at least initially, but I don't
remember the lambs complaining very much. I
could easily imagine that the pain is less than the
pain of healing from an incision. |
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And of course for an indoor pet there might be a
little more concern about where the remains land
when they dry up and fall off. I don't remember
every seeing any leftovers out on the farm. Maybe
the dogs took care of that... |
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Doing it to fifty animals at one time in an environment where minor surgery is common and death is part of the plan - the animals live outdoors and/or in barns and their complaints are a distant background music to your daily work. Your team pins them down / pens them up and a practiced rubber band installer goes at it quickly and methodically. |
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Doing it in your living room with one or two animals who look at you all day, every day, and their complaints, droppings and any blood loss are an intimate part of your environment. You've never or rarely done this before, your team is one of your kids with a towel or a neighbor you got drunk enough to assist you. When the animal is banded and released, you get to listen to it's squalling. Trust me, if I rubber banded your testicles you would have plenty to say about it. |
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We cut my wild mustang under sedation - apparently they do it under limited sedation some times, or knocked out other times if needed. After attempting to trim his feet under partial, we took him all the way under for the de-testicling and his initial foot trim. When I was done with his training any farrier could do his feet easily, but I think putting a rubber band on his testicles would have been rodeo at best. |
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Well, in the spirit of empiricism how about try on yourself and let us know how that goes? |
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That's what I was thinking [n_m_rm]. How does one
know it's painless unless they've tried (tied) it for
their elf parts. |
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Well of course it hurts. If there are nerve endings there it hurts. |
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How about using a bi metallic coil which would feel quite comfy at first. The animals' body heat would cause the coil to constrict and numb the area from blood-loss slowly. |
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Still cheap, still fast, but no pain... and you wouldn't even need a fancy set of reverse pliers to do the job. |
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Not that I mean to dissuade newbies, but the title isn't really up to par. |
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There's a helpfile/FAQ: click on "help", over there on the left side of the page. |
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Well, looks like we have two competing techniques, luckily the average male has two, so a back to back comparison is possible... |
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strange lack of volunteers...it's in the name of science and all... |
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[hb2u], you are witnessing the halfbakery in action. The idea you submitted? Not so great. The discussion following after? Well, "great" is not exactly the word that comes to mind. "not so"? Well, they are words, and they do come to mind, but used together they do not adequately describe the discussion. |
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Perhaps just "so?" Not "just so", just "so". We're still waiting for your answer about how you found us - it can't be taking you this long to read the help file. |
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And if you don't come around, people are going to keep talking about balls. C'mon, you started it, please come back and put us out of our misery. |
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Cats and dogs can both tooth-nip things in that area
like most farm animals can't. |
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Truth - never seen a bandage that a cat or dog couldn't get out of, including when they use that elizibethan collar thingy. |
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The problem with this is that is is low tech and extremely cheap. So why do it? Extremely frugal people will not have pets. People who can't be bothered by reason of inebriation / upbringing will not bother neutering pets. Nonpet animals already get this treatment. |
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Truly the point of pets is to provide a reason for otherwise sensible people to spend vast sums of money. What is needed is a method for emotional people (of means) to assuage their consciences by paying BUNGCO vast sums for an elaborate and putatatively pleasurable method of neutering / spaying for their prized mets. |
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