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twin's absolute time*
From a free ride reference frame, everyone else has to burn their candle to make their way. | |
Their mother had been a restless adventurer, with most time spent as an ocean sailor and this path earnt tales of experience. And she could tell them. One untold story was the time out alone, nowhere from anywhere, she had had one of those encounters, ultrabright lights, blurry figures and synthesizer
hums.
Fred and Ned knew she was telling the truth. Ever since the twins were young, they knew they were special and knew not to mention it. What Fred and Ned could do was extraordinary. The medical professionals had already found them to be publishable with the fact that their heart beats were in perfect simultaneous firing but that was fraction of the truth. The twins could see absolute time.
The twins had discussed a lot about their ability. They agreed completely, it was literally heart felt. Time to them was a visual anomaly, horizon lines coming from the horizon and disappearing at self. These repeated over and over again, in perfect sync with the communal heartbeat. Even in mirror looking behind, the waves came from behind horizon and finished at self. This space-time quiver was truly direction independent.
As the twins grew they found time related games and tasks easy and grew to be valid, productive members of society. Fred a great musician and Ned an exceptional pilot. Of course, Ned got the call up for the Earth Space Agency to test pilot the newly manufactured Alcubierre Nine. This vehicle being a step up from the destructive models one to six. Although Fred did take some briefing pointers from pilot of eight, admitted from the hospital. We won't mention seven.
But did it go? Yes it did. It cost an exorbitant amount of energy on all levels, but Nine was an age creating advancement of the human race. Ned was a name that every one will be forced to know, now and for ever on. But the thing is, what did Ned say to his older twin brother Fred? What did he see?
Ned had a wry smile when he talked to his brother. He had gotten a new experience his brother was lacking. Firing up the cutting edge drive had propelled his heartbeat out of sync with his visual ability. He had slowly got more and more lines per heartbeat as the craft gained a greater and greater fraction of c. Of course, back on terra firma Ned's heart and visual marks reverted back to relentless simultaneous one, with Fred. Maybe it's time for the older Fred to take a ride.
*possible in thought/concept but a clock made from any part of space-time won't run absolutely.
Not even wrong
https://en.wikipedi...wiki/Not_even_wrong
[hippo, Apr 27 2021]
Beneficial planck interval velocitization as a way to catalog possible transhumanist technology beings at a distance, using sensors I think are possible in the 21st century
https://www.quora.c...nswer/Treon-Verdery
[beanangel, Apr 27 2021]
[link]
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Is there an idea here, or is it a precis of a sci-fi story? |
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+ entertaining and time traveling feeling... |
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"Thank you, darling; I had an absolute time tonight." |
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well I thought there was an idea here about seeing
time... |
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Looks like closing time. One for the road? |
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Being younger means burning less energy than someone older (number of heartbeats in absolute time) but one can actually travel more absolute time and still be younger( energy supplied by something else, a free ride). |
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Somehow, I started to imagine what it really means to age in the scope of travel superluminal speeds. |
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What I was trying to think about is, the what if the Universe did have an absolute tick-tock ? a few orders under gravity, underlying everything. Instead of relating moving things to each other, what would the transformations would look like relating the movements to the universal road markings moving at absolute v. |
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Since absolute time would need a clock with a technology level way more accurate than gravity, it would have to be a mathematical conceptual tool. |
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Should have named this Universal heartbeat. |
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Absolutely agree. It's all a story. |
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Mathematics being the go to language to write in, to be closest and most useful. Imagination is still needed though. |
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Well, ..... I imagine the edge between nothing, and a material something would be signified through that something being either fast or furious. |
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[WJT] Noting physics improves, it is likely there will be
improvements to something very similar to your universal
heartbeat idea called the planck interval as well as the
planck length. I do not know the details, but the plank
interval is considered as valid by at least some 2021
physicists as being the smallest interval of time. They
could do better (overlays of intervals; frequency doubling
optical circuits and frequency doubling crystal math) but
at a 1D or 2D treatment the plank interval has been
thought of in 2021AD to be the eentsiest, microjerk
interval. |
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I thought of a time technology that could make intervals
smaller than the planck interval. It is sort of similar to: |
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OK, so you want to make something smaller than a
photon! Yay! just quantum entangle (quantum link) 800
photons together, then observe say just 1/800th of the
photons linked to the core photon, something about the
core photon changes 1/800th of a total amount of photon
somethingness, that means you have photons with 800
times more some groovy technologyizable attribute, such
as bits storable per core photon. You send the internet on
fiber optic pathways with technology that utilizes 1/800th
of a photon development to make the internet 800 times
faster. |
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Ok, so do the same thing, but with a planck interval; I
have zero clue, but if there is anything that plurally
quantum links (quantum entangles) a planck interval you
can link 800 of them to have 800 times more eentsy
"heartbeats" per previous "heartbeat" you describe to do
important human things with. One possibility is radically
new forms of chemistry, and proteins with 800 times
faster conformation space reshaping from the atoms just
running 800 times more planck interval occurrences per
attosecond. |
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So, can time be quantum linked, the delayed choice
quantum eraser experiment from the 1990s might do this,
as it causes more things to effect time simultaneously.
but if I thought of it at all its a little different than that. |
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I just have to say I love the exercise that reading a
[beanangel] annotation gives me. It's like the closest thing I'll
experience to a drug trip. |
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[WJT]'s idea got me to write a lengthier reply on Quora.com
[link] |
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A person on Quora asked about how to detect transhuman
technology beings, so I elaborated on what I wrote here.
[link] |
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Also [WJT] there are numerous Planck units like the
planck charge and the planck distance. Each of these
planck units, all of them, could be engineered and
technologized to function at higher eentsiness (or possibly
even expanded). That suggests that along with your
"heartbeat" the littlest thing could be littler, and support
higher atom resolution (like actual mathematician:
Shannon amounts of what can happen) at all the modified
planck
units. |
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Matter and chemistry: substrates for beneficial beings:
orbitals could be different with a planck length
technology, and at matter (atoms), completely new
materials might even be producible; atoms with 800 times
higher resolution and attach-to-each-other
characteristics could be made. |
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One I do not know anything about is the planck unit of
electromagnetism, but it seems possible mutiplying its
detail 800 times could produce completely new forms of
electromagnetic radiation that is completely new forms
of light to technologize. |
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Besdies the possibility of a qauntum entangled core and
800 contributing microgradations, and along with the
more-stuff-fits-in-it delayed quantum choice eraser, what
are some ways to do 800 times higher "minimal unit
length": I used to wonder how to add two frequencies to
produce a higher pitched frequency than the component
frequencies. It turns out this is possible and there are
published optical bench methods to do it, some
technologized version of that optical bench makes higher
frequencies (800 times greater resolution) predictable
and with a published mathematics. |
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Another basis for heightening the resolution and detail of
all the planck units is to utilize the mathematics of what
happens in frequency doubling crystals, somehow they do
frequencing doubling, and it is possible that can be
applied to new planck unit heightened resolutions. |
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The mathematics and even material science of frequency
doubling crystals could be made to make physical
embodiments that might have like a layer in them of
heightened minuteness of resolution at a variety of
planck units; also a person on Quora wanted to loook,
immediately into the sky and find transhumanist
technology beneficial to beings with presence of being
and sentience. Physical embodiments of reengineered
frequency doubling crystals could be the physical sensors
of transhumanist custom plank length technology users. |
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instant backup; a physical matter benevolent being, such
as a human, could run at 800 planck unit amplification
factor, but have a 900 plank unit microresolution
organism recorder running simultaneously. If there were
a nonoptimal event, then the physical matter benevolent
being could be restored from the higher resolution sample
that does a nonsentient data representation of the
sentient 800 planck length Shannon:resolution. It notably
differs from uploading in that a physical human body has
a full reverse and IT pattern refund capability |
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There is another way to make shannon:custom
waveforms, right at the 800 times greater resolution
planck units: automata trisinusoidials stacked waveform
or wavelet to make eentsier stuff.
You can do more than just heighten resolution: possible
varied shannon:frequency planck space heightened
resolution math prcoessing based around nonturing
cellular automata as compared with analog planck minute
division shannon: divisions, resolution. That goes with
not just adjusting a plank unit shannon:division to 800
times greater.
automata regularity, it is when you utilize nonturing
cellular automata to make stuff, like you could paint a
field of planck unit resolution increased automata and it
would be like having a stay fresh prepped surface |
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I think plank unit resolution change technologies benefit a
benevolent transhuman singularity. I support an
immediate technological singularity. |
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[beanangel] That makes even less sense. It's generally
true that, for any scientific idea, if you can't express it in
a single, clear sentence then you don't really understand
it yourself. |
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And that may be the point: no matter how brilliant you
are, if you can't communicate, no one will ever know.
When I was writing my PhD thesis I was told that the
short 'abstract' of the thesis had to sum up the whole
thing - what I was hypothesising and why, how I was
approaching the problem and my conclusions and
crucially, the first sentence of the abstract also had to
sum all of this up. Getting that sentence right was very
hard, but really helped me crystallise in my mind exactly
what I was saying in my PhD. |
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I borked at 1/800th of a 800 large group dynamic emergent behaviour will give the real individual's actions. |
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Maybe at the planck dimensional limits, we are at the lowest point an individual thing can be define away from the environment. |
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I think I am going nuts. How the do the lorentz transformations tell between prime and not prime? the travelling entity has to do a round trip before any clock measurements can be compared. If they separate no one will ever know. |
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It is just now with a new take on the statement. |
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If two points have delta v between them, one knows the distance it has traveled and the other knows it's time taken. Delta v is close to the speed of light. The relativity can't be worked out, right ? not enough information. |
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Thanks [A1} but I don't think there is a way out for me, I seem to worry there is a difference between time time and a simplified time that is relationshiped to velocity by distance. A frozen entity does not have flow but time still exists, whether it can measured or not. |
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Have you considered starting from a Kantian conception of time,
[wjt]? If you use that, plus a Berkeleian conception of matter,
then modern physics might not give you such nightmares. |
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Will have a look, thanks. |
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I can understand the philosophy, I am but a box with a generated model inside. But ultimately all that I am is because of data I have incorporated in my model. I do not need to exist. The stuff that makes my data will still, has always existed ( in various forms). |
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Time isn't is just the t dimension though, In the simple x only dimension Lorentz graph, time itself is a function of distance, how clocks work.
Really, the close to light speed trip has altered the traveling clock's work with distance. Given a 10year, 8year example the younger traveling pilot has still been out ten years even if only grown 8 years. |
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We ourselves are but clocks of molecular metabolic distance. |
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Then again, hopefully skeptical, information can be transmogrified on to new media. |
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Excellent; my work here is done. |
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[wjt] thanks for the Lorentz transformation mention I had a
good 1.5 hours learning about that. |
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NB: //information...new media// reminds me of uploading,
which brings to mind rapamycin, an oral drug published as
causing mice to live 60% longer. I got rapamycin at alibaba
and took it for about three months, I think it was about
$3/24 hours at my 10 times normal dose. So it might be just
30 cents a day to live much longer if you are interested. |
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Be careful [beanangel], the experimenters didn't really ask how different the mouse felt or whether its conscious view of the world had changed. But then again the mouse might not have known anyway. |
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You don't feel any different do you [beanangel]? |
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