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Ok, a chain or rope with blades or abrasives tied to branches that
get moved by the wind actually cut the tree down albeit real
slow(we have time until the next forest fire). Seems many could cut
a swath thru the forest to cut off a forest fire and save bambi and
friends making smokey quite happy.
Still working on wind powered
wood stacking and delivery to enviro friendly eco wood burning
stoves near you. Its waiting on my smokeless no emmision fire to
take off but its a start we certainly will need.
swaying_20tree_20power
[spidermother, Apr 03 2013]
USS Miller
http://en.wikipedia...USS_Miller_(DD-535) [xandram, Apr 04 2013]
Evolution in action...maybe
http://www.usatoday...oad-deaths/1988363/ could bethat nesting on skyscraper ledges contributes equally... [4whom, Apr 05 2013]
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Not sure what the stated goal is here. Modern cutting
operations are turning more and more towardselective
harvesting rather than cutting 'swathes'. Slow-moving saws
can't cut firebreaks fast enough to make
a difference. Cutting firebreaks before the fire starts
rarely works. Not
only is it impossible to predict the origin of a forest fire
and very difficult to predict the path of one once it's
started, but cutting swathes of forest leaves large amounts
of slash and dry mulch lying around waiting for something
to set fire to it. Finally, Bambi can save himself; he always
does. Welcome
to Halfbakery! |
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At least try Product: Tool category.
This category is really inappropiate for this idea. I'm wary of the screen name as co at the end could imply a company... |
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Well, it would seem to work, albeit it slowly. I suppose just using a portable windmill would be possible? |
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I think the suggestion here is to use the ambient motion of
the trees to cut themselves against a fixed cable saw,
which wouldn't even work: in order to remove material
from the cut, each cutter (tooth or whatever) must
completely clear the kerf. There isn't nearly enough lateral
movement at the base of a tree to make this possible. |
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I read it as the blade guide is clamped against the
tree, but actuated by the branch movement. |
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The username has a history on the web and appears to be legit at a glance. |
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I interpret the idea in the spirit of a low cost wind driven saw device, that a forester could carry a bunch on a walk and install them in fortuitous locations previous to the windy season. |
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It would be entertaining to watch one of them at work. |
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I agree with the suggested category choice. Welcome to the Halfbakery [ussmillerco]. |
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I didn't even think of that...around here we call them
widowmakers. |
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Other than 'widdermakers' you need to cut an initial notch into the tree to, not only influence the direction of its fall, but keep a cutting blade or band from binding. Your ring/band/chain saw will get pinched before it can cut deeply enough to fell the tree in a single season... in which case you just need to cut the cambrium layer and wait for a year. (+) for sure though. |
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[normzone] Thanks for checking that, I was just curious, but found out about the real USS Miller! |
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I see the idea as a riposte to the greenies who moan about logging. "Hey, I used wind-power, so it's OK, right?" |
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That much was clear, and I'm all for sticking it to
hypocritical activists who don't know the first thing about
the environment they think they're saving (and their place
within it). |
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For that matter, I'm all for harnessing wind power _and_
for needlessly complicated and largely unnecessary devices
that accomplish a useful task at 1.3% of the speed
attainable by currently existing methods. I just want to see
that the damn thing could work. |
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Thank you for all the kind words and all the support your
posts gave me to continue onwards. I know theres minor
quirks to my revolutionary idea and doubts are the new
currency of the day. Im however undeterred by such
skeptics to see this idea to fruition. Those quirks like
actually waiting years for the tree to fall( even if it does
only succumb to old age), and the uncertainty of when it
falls creating hazzards, or the huge amount of slash that
would need to be harvested ( not sure how ill figure the
timeframe) but im determined to tackle these and any
other issues in the most eco friendly way possible. As for
my handle username If it offends anyone at all for anything
i will change it free of all charges and consider paying
reparations worthy of such offensiveness provided they are
proven beyond a reasonable implied mutual individual
consent. I can assure you i am not and have never been
affilliated with any company or companies, businesses, for
profit or non profit, religious or non religious entity or any
governmental tax exempt or otherwise worthy or non
worthy enterprise whatsoever so help me god( unless that
offends you and then so help me mother earth or similar).
My ideas are for everyones use. Thank you and good day. |
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Would it not be ecofriendlier to construct a wind-
powered ambulatory tree feller, akin to Theo
Jansen's Wind Beasts? |
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can we discuss how ridiculously dangerous this idea would be now? |
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Hello [uss]. I'm sorry for assuming the co meant company, but we had just been bombarded with some spammers trying to sell things. Keep posting halfbaked ideas and we'll keep reading them!
Please do check out other categories, though. There are so many that one shouldn't have use General. Esp. the Halfbakery: General!! That is used for Halfbakery ideas only. |
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You only get a bun from me if the cutting device is attached to the tree it cuts down. I want to see how many generations it takes for trees to evolve more streamlined configurations. Like the urban swallow with shorter wingspans. You know... for avoiding cars. |
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//one shouldn't have use General. Esp. the
Halfbakery: General!! That is used for Halfbakery
ideas only.// I always assumed Halfbakery: General
was for ideas relating to the chain of command at
the HB. |
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I assumed that 'co' meant 'commanding officer' or some
other reference to rank, although that seems unlikely for a
ship that was scrapped in the 70s. |
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[uss]: category, change it, thanks. |
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Ahem... Note that I posted this idea as part of my Swaying Tree Power (link). <hypocrisy mode> Kindly remove this offensive duplication at once! </hm> |
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Nah, just kidding. Welcome to the halfbakery! |
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This is kind of Dr Kevorkian, but for trees.... |
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<shakes magic eight-ball> |
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