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There are already police who work to stop scammers, but they're part of other sections, working with tools intended for other purposes, and not focused exclusively on the problem of scammers. This half-hearted attempt is worthy but far from complete.
Operating from donations, but with legal blessing
from the courts, this organization would raise scambaiting to a new level. A volunteer call center would contain hundreds of professional scambaiters and operators. They would make outgoing calls to scammers call centers and they would have a number to forward scam calls to. A common set of tools would make this process much more efficient, rigorous, and legally viable.
The organization would work with banks, hosting providers, VOIP and POTS companies, and law enforcement to track scamming call centers and investigate their physical locations and real personnel over time, such that it could be proven a company in one place was set up by the same person who started a different company in a different place. It would gather evidence and put together whole completed cases to hand to law enforcement/internal affairs for arrests, focusing on the ringleaders and corrupt officials who really make it happen. All laws of evidence and constitutionality in each jurisdiction would be maintained.
A second branch of the charity would focus on informing the public of the latest methods and lies scammers use. It would put up billboards and advertisements, run a large, stable web page, and talk with community leaders to get the word out not just about the well-known tactics but how scammers operate in general.
Definition of quango
https://www.bing.co...BR&pc=MOZI&q=quango The opposite of this idea: it gets its funding from the government and direction from elsewhere [Voice, Apr 30 2021]
100 people bait together
https://www.youtube...watch?v=jUHFpfVPUYc [Voice, Sep 14 2024]
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//legal blessing from the courts// |
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How would this part work? Would Justice Kavanagh, for
example, raise two fingers while murmuring "te absolvo, te
absolvo"? Would the ICJ in The Hague sprinkle holy water over
the unofficial officers? |
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I think you might be confusing the functions of different
branches of government. |
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What you want is for (1) diplomats, cabinet ministers, etc., in
various countries to agree on what this body should be allowed
to do, then (2) legislatures to make any necessary amendments
to existing laws to allow them to do those things. Those will be
the difficult parts. Getting judges to apply the laws as amended
should be the easy part, relatively speaking. |
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//I think you might be confusing the functions of different
branches of government// |
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Where do you live that the church is a branch of
government? aside from conspiracy theories & disgruntled anti
church rhetoric not meant to be taken seriously of course. |
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//anti church rhetoric not meant to be taken seriously// |
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I don't live there myself but have to admit I do visit. |
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So, yet another unelected quango with little oversite from or
accountability to those that are elected? we've been trying to
get rid of those in the UK so you might have problems there,
appears to have great potential to become yet another
carriage of the gravy train though so you never know, if you
can get me on the board of directors I'll bun it ;p |
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//How would (legal blessing) work?// |
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//legislatures to make any necessary amendments to existing laws to allow them to do those things.// |
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What gravy train, [Skewed], that you couldn't find in any charity? Did you miss the part about "Operating from donations"? |
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//Did you miss the part about "Operating from
donations"?// |
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How does the funding model have anything to do with if
something's a gravy train or not? |
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Put another way, why would a gravy train
turn its nose up at donations & how does it make it
not-a-gravy-train if it doesn't? |
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//What gravy train, [Skewed], that you couldn't find in any
charity?// |
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Wasn't that my point? that we already have enough
scammers masquerading as do-gooders, or did you
somehow miss that? |
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I missed that: I thought you were talking about parts of the bureaucracy. Although I got a little confused when you implied there's some success at getting rid of them. |
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So you think charities shouldn't exist? |
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I think far too many charities are functionally little
more than scams to
enrich their founders & directors, not quite the same thing. |
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//I got a little confused when you implied there's some
success at getting rid of them// Oops my bad, didn't mean to
imply that, it's not really true
after all :) |
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There are frequent recurring bouts of noise about them
being got rid of or reduced is all that can honestly be said,
success as you so rightly point out
is another thing entirely. |
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