h a l f b a k e r yThe phrase 'crumpled heap' comes to mind.
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I wouldn't mind seeing the warmongers in the white house forced to eat these images. |
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That wouldn't be an art project, though, [ldischler] - it would be a "punish those who do X" |
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Yes, but I wouldn't mind. |
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That's about $10,000 per person and about $20,000 per employed person, by the way. |
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Isn't it supposed to last a hundred years? Isn't that what McCain wants? If he gets his way, three trillion will be nothing. |
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Think again, think McCain. (current frozen vegetable advertisement in our part of the world.) |
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Another odd thing to think about is the list of countries that have a smaller GDP than the 0.5 trillion per year spent: |
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Aw, heck, There are 166 of them. It's easier to list the countries not on that list... |
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The US, Japan, Germany, China, France, the UK, Italy, Canada, Spain, Brazil, Russia, S. Korea, India, Mexico, Australia, the Netherlands, and Turkey. |
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I'm surprised that UAE, Saudi Arabia,
and Iran are not included in that list. In
Dubai alone almost 20% of all the tower
cranes in the world are engaged in
construction on a totally massive scale. |
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I saw S. Arabia listed at 309,778,000,000 & UAE at 129,702,000,000. |
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half a trillion a year is equal to the GDP of 94 countries w/ the smalles GDP's. For the fun of it: |
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Kribiati, Sao Tome & Principe, Marshall Islands, Palau, Tonga, Micronesia, Dominica, Guinea-Bissau, Solomen Islands, East Timor, Vanuatu, Comoros, Samoa, St Vincent & The Grenadines, St Kitts & Nevis, Gambia, Grenada, Liberia, Seychelles, Djibouti, Burundi, Guyana, St Lucia, Maldives, Bhutan, Antiqua & Barbuda, Eritrea, Cape Verde, Belize, Sierra Leone, Lesotho, C.A.R., Suriname, Togo, Malawi, Montenegro, Rwanda, Swaziland, Mauritania, Mongolia, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Fiji, Barbados, Moldova, Guinea, Laos, Niger, West Bank & Gaza, Genin, Haiti, Zimbabwe, Nicaragua, Madagascar, Malta, Papau New Guinea, Mali, Burkina Faso, Macedonai, Namibia, Brunei Darussalam, Armenia, Mauritius, Chad, Cambodia, R of Congo, Georgia, Mozambique, Nepal, Afghanistan, P.R. of Congo, Eq. Guinea, Senegal, Paraguay, Albania, Honduras, Uganda, Gabon, Botswana, Turkmenistan, Jamaica, Zambia, Bolivia, Bosnia & Hezegovina, Tanzania, Ghana, Bahrain, Ethiopia, Jordon, Macau - PRC, Cypres, Iceland, Estonia, Panama, & Uzbekistan. |
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Just imagine how many more friends the US would have if they matched all these countries GDP for 5 years on the requirement that they build infrastructure with the donation instead of invading Iraq. |
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let's let the coldongers eat them too. |
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While I think protest by art form is very laudable, 3 trillion copies is 1.5 million reams or so of copy paper, pushing this well beyond the limits of possibility for even the most hardened artist. |
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How about 3 trillion grains of sand? I think you could fit that into something that could circulate the art museums of the country, and still inspire awe when people mentally transformed the grains of sand into dollar bills. |
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That's no good. You can't tape sand. |
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Yeah, but shovelling 3 trillion grains of sand is going to take rather less time than sticky-taping 3 trillion pieces of paper. |
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Yes, true, [PhysicianOfIndianSpice]. But the project itself as written, even including the six hundred trips to the moon and back, would still constitute a more sensible use of the funds it would require than what we are artfully protesting (and its exorbitant cost)... |
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("exorbitant": spell checked OK! What do you know!) |
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3 trillion grains of typical sand would fill a
box about 1.5 metres on a side. |
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[MB], it's hard to decide if that would be appropriately impactful to the average Amurrican |
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That would depend on the height, and on
whether you removed the sand from the
box first. |
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//it's JUST an art project// why use the
word "just"? This infers that art projects
are of less value. Despite these
reservations + |
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It's JUST an art project, as opposed to a perceived solution for any current social problem. |
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History teaches that to stop powerfull people, the less powerfull must act en masse. No private or artisitic protest is effective unless it is backed by a mob. Later history values the art and rhetoric of revolution while at the time it was borne on the points of well worn pitchforks. |
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History also teaches that powerful people can only really be stopped by people who can spell powerful. |
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As a Quaker and as a young person my ears bleed at the mention of symbolic protest. When I want to protest at the local recruiting center everybody politely bows out explaining that they already have comfortable, safe, and individualistic ways to protest. |
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//As a Quaker and as a young person
my ears bleed at the mention of sybolic
protest.// |
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You need to be more tolerant. Sybolic
protest (named, as I guess you know,
for Sybolis of Frenum) has a long
tradition, and was a potent political
force over a period of several centuries.
Sybolis himself, of course, was tortured
and killed as a result of the protests he
organised, but stuck to his principals to
the end. I really don't see how this
conflicts with Quakerism, or indeed any
form of cereal worship. |
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Maybe you need to find some more militant quakers, [WcW]. |
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picks up gun and starts shaking |
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Yes, and what now of the Sybolic cause? All those years of archaic struggle and now all that remains is the rubble of a once great empire. I will never again join a Sybolic effort to overthrow tyranny. |
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You are wrong, WC. The Sybolics were
not destroyed, their spirit was not
broken, and their faith was not eroded,
even though their cities were razed to
the ground, their womenfolk
stampeded, and their livestock raped. |
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After the Great Repression of 1512, a
few Sybolics did indeed renounce their
faith. Some even turned traitor,
informing on their former friends and
colleagues, which lead to the Great
Purge of 1514, the Great Resurgence of
1515, the Greater Purge of 1516, and
the Cautious Wait of 1517. |
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However, the movement remained
strong amongst land-owners and
artisans, who adapted their rituals to
take place in near-silence, by virtue of
elaborate mimes, hindered only by the
need to conduct their rituals in total
darkness. |
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Throughout the ages, the Sybolics
remained a dark but potent force
throughout most of Europe, quietly
biding their time until a more tolerant
world evolved. Only after the second
world war, with peace reigning through
choice or through necessity, did the
Sybolics start seeking to regain their
position as the dominant power shaping
all aspects of public, private and
commercial life. |
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The Sybolics, proud though they are of
their long heritage, realized that they
would need to find a new name if old
fears and resentments were not to be
reawakened. The organisation now
flourishes throughout the Western
world, and even has influence in the
East, under it's new name - the Health
and Safety Executive. |
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