h a l f b a k e r yProfessional croissant on closed course. Do not attempt.
add, search, annotate, link, view, overview, recent, by name, random
news, help, about, links, report a problem
browse anonymously,
or get an account
and write.
register,
|
|
|
Small Minded
The magazine for businesses that are small and are going to stay that way | |
A lot of the more reactionary news site commenters
appear to be small business owners. The story is
always that they work harder than anyone else,
customers are a herd of cow-doofuses waiting to be
drained dry while also providing an excellent source of
amusing work stories, and employees need
to be
constantly bullied and micromanaged. I once challenged
one of these serial commenters as to why, if
they were so hard working, they found the time to make
twelve comments on an article between
11:30am and 2pm on a business day, and they replied it
was because "I've got staff, duh!"
In the absence of a Digital Millennium Self-Restraint Act,
the only way to make this annoying midge
cloud go away is to give them something else to focus
on. Enter "Small Minded", the magazine and site
for small business owners, by small business owners. A
sample of article titles you could find there:
- What to do about an employee that keeps demanding a
wage they can live on
- The Customer is always right....NOT!
- Plausible deniability for "accidents" befalling tax
auditors, food inspectors and health & safety officials
visiting your premises
- PROOF: The Government has actually been created for
the sole
purpose of taking all your wealth, rolling their
sweaty bodies in it and laughing like Dr Evil
Please log in.
If you're not logged in,
you can see what this page
looks like, but you will
not be able to add anything.
Annotation:
|
| |
I'm a bit more forgiving of small business owners, the buck stops with them during tricky times - if you're trying to steer a business through the storm there are 3 main problems to have to deal with and those are the ones you seem to have picked out from their comments: Customers, Staff and Government. |
|
| |
If you're on a wage, there's less to worry about, giving you the luxury to think on more lofty matters, like how annoying small business owners can be on internet forums. ;) |
|
| |
You've never owned your own business, have you,
[oscil8]? |
|
| |
//The Government has actually been created for the sole purpose of taking all your wealth, rolling their sweaty bodies in it and laughing like Dr Evil// Interesting proposition, but to be a scientific theory, it has to be potentially falsifiable. I.e. it has to be conceptually possible to present evidence against the proposition. |
|
| |
I'm sure UnaBubba can answer for himself, but [21Quest] while I appreciate your frustration at those employers who flout immigration/minimum wage laws, it doesn't follow that ALL employers (even UnaBubba) do the same. |
|
| |
It is possible to understand the bemoaning of the vast swathes of bureaucracy required when employing someone, and since it takes time and effort to file all the necessary paperwork to do that legally, taking on the responsibility not just for paying them in the short term, but to make a long-term commitment to continue paying a living wage, no matter the market conditions, not to mention keep on top of ever-changing rules and regulations, it all comes at a cost (financial or otherwise). |
|
| |
Yes, some employers skirt around all of that and get rich as a result. Other employers (arguably those who have more integrity) can find the cost of supporting all the legal requirements of running a business (tax, paperwork, file keeping for production at tribunals etc) is all stuff that "gets in the way" of the enjoyable part of running a business - i.e. having ideas and putting them into motion. |
|
| |
I'm confused by your comment about preferring Wall-Mart (who I always thought were notorious employers of ille..ahem.. "undocumented" immigrants and who's business model crowded out lots of small business owners who as a rule are more law-abiding) - but you're being ironic, right? |
|
| |
Well, [21Q], if you didn't live in "THE GREATEST,
FAIREST, MOST DEMOCRATIC ECONOMIC PARADISE
ON EARTH" then your small business employers
wouldn't have to employ undocumented workers.
You'd also have a government that enforces labour
laws to ensure foreign workers get the same basic
wage as everyone else in the same position, at a
minimum hourly rate that is well above the
minimum wage in "THE GREATEST, FAIREST, MOST
DEMOCRATIC ECONOMIC PARADISE ON EARTH" |
|
| |
I pay, as a minimum, $27.50 per hour to the people
whom I employ. That rate is to our cleaner, BTW.
I pay my contract bookkeeper $70/hour and I still
seem to be able to make a profit. I must be doing
something wrong. |
|
| |
The truth of the matter is that small businesses
often don't have the revenue base to compete
with large businesses in their same industry
sector. They fall down because they can't spread
their overhead cost across enough sales / units
sold to be competitive. |
|
| |
Those business owners need to understand they
have lost the battle in that market segment and
they should either select a different industry or go
and get a job. They'll endure less stress and
probably make more money, if they select the
latter. |
|
| |
//... Meanwhile, I'll continue to do my shopping at Wal-Mart, thanks, where I can find a greater selection at a much lower price. |
|
| |
See, that's where small business owners shoot themselves in the foot, and are too blinded by greed to see it. They try to maximize profits by driving wages down and prices up, then complain when people (who have to live off such low wages) want to do their shopping at cheaper stores like Wal-Mart.//
(21 Quest, May 24 2012) |
|
| |
I once hired someone working illegally in this country, this Australian fellow on holliday. I paid him more than I usually pay starting apprentices because he had experience, and then I paid far more when he stuck the tip of his finger into the spinning blade of the table saw... |
|
| |
Wallmart isn't the same since Wally died. |
|
| |
Walmart also forces its workers onto the foists of public assistance and health care because it doesn't bother to pay them a living wage. And when they pack up and leave town, they throw all sorts of constraints in the mix as to precisely who can buy their derelict stores. |
|
| |
I wonder if UB would have a use for a washed-up auto engineer with a dead-end career... |
|
| |
I seem to recall a story about the crops down south rotting in the fields because the state passed an aggressive immigration law. Despite unemployment amongst US citizens being rather high, they simply weren't willing to stoop to the hard work of picking crops. |
|
| |
//Rather than pay them hourly, the employers insist that it's fair to pay them some arbitrary and unlegislated number by the amount of crates they pack per hour or some ridiculous metric like that, and even the hardest working people were averaging less than minimum wage.// |
|
| |
That's an interesting point. While I don't disagree that this would be a disreputable way of avoiding minimum wage legislation, the fact remains that workers do have the option not to take the deal. |
|
| |
//You pay per hour, and if you feel you aren't getting your money's worth from an employee who doesn't work hard enough you can fire him for being unproductive.// |
|
| |
I would imagine that doesn't work so well for short-term labour, which is where piecework is usually practiced. |
|
| |
IIRC Germany had a similar problem with its asparagus crop - although the pickers were initially legal working visitors, a law was passed which prevented that happening. The locals were not inclined to work (actually quite skilled work) for the rates offered.
In the case you mention it seems to me that the real issue is that America is not dealing with the foreign labour appropriately. There are probably other vested interests. |
|
| |
Regarding Wal-Mart (or rather, large companies in general; particularly supermarkets), the issue is not just what they pay their workers, but also how aggressive they are in reducing their purchasing costs.
If a business is selling to lots of different customers, they don't have to cede to demands for a reduced price. If there's one large customer buying from multiple much smaller businesses, that customer can take advantage - and supermarkets do. |
|
| |
What on earth is an illegal immigrant? Is the Earth not the common treasury of all men? Who abrogates the rights to themselves to say what parts of the earth a fellow human may or may not walk? |
|
| |
Also, why is it good when an individual puts on their "customer" hat and seeks out the cheapest deal, but bad when the same individual puts on their "employer" hat and seeks out the best deal? To be consistent, either shopping cheap is good and so is hiring cheap; or hiring cheap is bad and therefore shoppers have a moral duty to patronise more expensive businesses. |
|
| |
//What on earth is an illegal immigrant? Is the Earth not the common treasury of all men? Who abrogates the rights to themselves to say what parts of the earth a fellow human may or may not walk?// |
|
| |
//the employers insist that it's fair to pay them some arbitrary and unlegislated number by the amount of crates they pack per hour or some ridiculous metric like that, and even the hardest working people were averaging less than minimum wage. That simply isn't how it works in this country. You pay per hour, and if you feel you aren't getting your money's worth from an employee who doesn't work hard enough you can fire him for being unproductive.// |
|
| |
Hahaha.
Welcome to my last couple of decades. Nothing but piece work, 'and' I have to guarantee all of the work and pay my own taxes/benefits.
I kind of detest working by the hour and wouldn't have it any other way. When both competency and speed are required to get just an incremental raise the skill of the worker goes through the roof. |
|
| |
When I hire apprentices I have no choice but to pay them by the hour until I see if they are worth their salt. I switch them to a percentage of the labor after a year or so. (they cost me money for about six months, then they make me money for about six months, then we're square)
It's the only way I've found to get them to think for themselves. Before that, what incentive do they have to excell and make me 'more' money unless doing so also lines their pockets? |
|
| |
The price per square foot here hasn't changed in over a decade, but I'm still squeezing out raises. |
|
| |
//businessmen in general are dishonest cheats,// |
|
| |
Another critic who's never been in business for
themselves, I would surmise. |
|
| |
// THE GREATEST, FAIREST, MOST ECONOMIC PARADISE ON
EARTH // |
|
| |
[21Quest] Says //businessmen in general
are dishonest
cheats,
and it is the rare
businessman who
conducts his business
honestly.// then a
few annos later
complains how businessmen //slanders us citizens//
Irony much? A few
sweeping
generalizations too many here
maybe? |
|
| |
I'd like to spend
time drafting some
more focussed
slanders at you [21Q]
but I have to go to the
office to calculate and
remit my Payroll Tax
and then do the
calculations to figure
out how much
Child Support I'm
supposed to deduct off
one employee's wages
because he never
bothers to pay it
himself - so naturally the gov't
decided to just
coerce me to do it on his and their behalf.
(Then there's that
whole "don't argue with a
fool" thing). |
|
| |
That's the one, [AusCan]... |
|
| |
"You should never argue with idiots. They just bring
you down to their level and beat you with
experience." |
|
| |
Machiavelli wasn't / isn't actually a role model, unless
you're planning on becoming a psychopath, [Simple] |
|
| |
// a stronger force through your martyrdom// So what are we suggesting here, a small-business person's jihad? Pack up your accounts forecasting spreadsheets brothers, we are destined for martyrdom! (Point of clarification, when we say, "martyrdom" we just mean filing our expenses after the official deadline, right?) |
|
| |
Hmmm a bit of a hornet's nest this one. |
|
| |
I didn't mean to slag off all small businesses, but the
impression I get is
that many of the small business owners who have so
much to say on
certain news sites are the type of people who can't
operate in a team
environment - they don't compromise, aren't interested
in being polite
and like to be in total control. The impetus for starting
their own
business is "screw the man" - aimed at former bosses,
colleagues and
the government. Their ambitions don't go much higher
than a life of
leisure where underlings do all the work. Often they
express a shocked
and annoyed frustration that running a small business is
so much work. |
|
| |
You're right, I've never owned a small business, but a
couple of people
I know who have had a go have come unstuck because
they were
focused on doing something great instead of watching
their back, and
they ended up getting shafted by their business partners.
This doesn't exactly get my fire started |
|
| |
If you're out of your depth, [oscil8], it's probably best
to shut your mouth, lest you drown. Just saying. |
|
| |