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Gravity as God
Beats praying to an angry bearded guy with the toga and sandals | |
Maybe gravity should be elevated to deity status, not that
it needs it. Maybe gravity IS God.
It formed everything, it created the universe (compressed
everything that became the big bang and will crunch
everything in the expanding universe back together
eventually to form another big bang)
it's always with us,
you can't see it.
I mean, if you had a job application for "God" gravity
would be able to fill most of the requirements. As to
whether it's guided by intelligence or not, maybe we're
projecting in that regard, assuming other beings are either
exactly like us or are just dumb inert matter. Maybe there's
some halfway or alternate "intelligence" like a force
innately programed to create life the universe and
everything without regard for credit or acknowledgement
or even buildings in which cash is given to his living envoys
here on Earth.
Introducing a new God on a man made invention web site
probably won't do much to sell the idea.
By the way, I just talked to this new God and he says you
all owe me fifty bucks. Do not incur his wrath.
Marxists.org: The Essence of Christianity
http://www.marxists...s/essence/index.htm
Ludwig Feurerbach [rcarty, Sep 04 2010]
Halfbakery: Canonise Charles Darwin
Canonise Charles Darwin
Another play on smudging the lines between science and religion. [zen_tom, Sep 05 2010]
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I recall reading a physicist who was told by a religious person he must agree that there was an invisible force that permeates everything, binds us and controls us, or something mystical like that, and he said, "Yes, gravity." |
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Here's my share of the fifty. [+] |
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BTW, just want to add, I'm not being disrespectful
of anybody's view of God by implying I have a clue
which I don't. But sometimes admitting you don't
have a clue is a good thing. |
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I just read a headline saying Steven Hawking said
God didn't create the universe and it got me to
thinking about useless non-utilitarian revelations
and I thought I'd throw one out there. (No, I didn't
read the article, or do I care to.) |
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For whatever it's worth, I'm a non practicing
atheist myself but I don't claim to have a wrap on
the truth. I just hold people that claim they do to
task sometimes. |
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: D
Of course He's gravity... he's a lot of other stuff too. (+) |
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//an angry bearded guy with the toga and sandals// |
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I have a feeling that the big guy would be a lot less angry if us talkin monkeys could just figure out how to not screw each other in the ear. |
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...the toga is just a fashion statement, and at least it's not black socks with sandals. |
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{Faulteringly}So... That'd make Newton The Messiah? |
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Ah, but what about The Light? Sure, Newton told us something about the spectrum (though Hooke seems to have had some input)... so Is Hooke "John The Baptist"? |
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I have it on good authority that the Devil wears plaid
socks and white patent leather loafers. |
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//BTW, just want to add, I'm not being disrespectful of
anybody's view of God// |
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What's so bloody sacred about religion, for chrissake? |
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If Newton is the Messiah he will make damned sure that Hooke is the Antichrist.
All this talk of gravity is bringing me down, man. |
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Even he, [MB]. Don't lets get us both started!! |
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//Do not incur his wrath.// |
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Damn! I've been incurring this wrath all my life, currently to the tune of about 175lb. |
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As an extra curse, I periodically drop important stuff, incurring the wrath not only of the god Gravity but also SWMBO - a little less powerful but making up for that by being a LOT less predictable. |
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I actually think calling the Higgs Boson the God partical isn't that far off. He is the essence/driving force of the universe. This includes gravity, and whatever else he wants to be. Which includes a really big cluster of Bosons called Jesus :) |
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Was Planck or Einstein = Judas? - Owww... perhaps it's Hawking or no-one we know yet... |
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Good try, but this isn't really a superhero idea. [Marked-for-deletion] Theory, advocacy |
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This should actually be a polytheistic religion, with Magnetism
and the Weak and Strong Nuclear Forces as lesser gods. |
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Why are both Newton and Leibniz named after biscuits? |
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//So... That'd make Newton The Messiah// |
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surely it would make him a prophet? or something
similar, it's my understanding that the Messiah is
supposed to be the son of God (in this case gravity)
in which case Newton is no more Messiah than you or
i, however a prophet or visionary would fit Newton
more as the person who "discovered" God? |
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//Why are both Newton and Leibniz named after biscuits?// |
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That made me laugh so much I got crumbs of Rich Chocolate
Copernicus over my keyboard. |
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God said "Let Newton be" and all was light. |
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...then Albert Einstein is the Christ" |
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gravity cannot act on your behalf. there is no way to fail to regard gravity. We are already all "worshipers" of gravity to the maximum possible degree. |
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And to the minimum possible degree as well. |
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<Slightly off-topic> I always wondered about the physicist types who are trying to figure out when/how gravity was combined with the other fundamental forces, around the Big Bang.
As far as I see it, gravity is completely different, and so why should it be combined? It's a distortion of space-time, while the others are inter-particle effects with photons and stuff.
Disclaimer: I've done some cosmology and particle physics, but I'm a long way from an expert. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong/stupid in the stuff above.</sot> |
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we have actually flogged that question to death a few times. |
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Space: What is it made of? |
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Arising from the mass of particles gravity seems to be a particle effect, right? |
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We need to integrate gravity so as to answer these questions. |
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Does gravity distort time? How? |
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Please don't delete this... it's priceless... |
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//Why are both Newton and Leibniz named after
biscuits?// They all make gravity a little more
noticeable, eh? |
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No (wide spread & archeologically proven to exist) religion has ever covered gravity, we have worshipped the sun, the god(s) of war, the god(s) of the earth etc. but never gravity; Simply because it always is and has never been observed to vary. |
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God as gravity for president [+] |
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[xxobot] is apparently caught in a closed timelike curve. |
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...and particles are mearly standing EM wave nodes, so by extension, God must just be good vibrations.
good good, Good. Good vibrations. |
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Oh my Grav!
He's a Beach Boy. |
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// {Faulteringly}So... That'd make Newton The Messiah? //
He thought so...born on Christmas...etc. |
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I'd have to generalize this to Physics is God, so that would mean I got a Theology Degree. |
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We're actually all just floating in space. The Flying
Spaghetti Monster just touches us all with His
Noodly Appendages and makes us believe that we're
grounded. |
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[MisterQED], //Physics is God //
I don't think we can say that - as it's a human term and therefore would be a tautology - though I see what you're getting at i.e. the observable/unobservable effects of the thing we call Physics is God - but that's just what Hawking said |
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you sure somebody didn't just maliciously reprogram Hawking's speech-thingy ? |
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For that matter how do we know that's really been Hawkings saying any of that stuff over the years? Now there's a conspiracy theory. |
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I'm planning a 'Burn a Physics Book Day' in protest. |
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No no no, the Devil wears Prada. |
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Acts 17:28 "For in Him we live and move and have our being." |
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//how do we know that's really been Hawkings//
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Suppose it *wasn't* Hawking? Would that weaken anybody's
faith in atheism?
Also "Physics is God" seems more a paraphrase of Einstein
than of Hawking, who seems to be saying "Your majesty, I
have no need of that hypothesis." |
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Here's why I'm such a lousy atheist. Not showing up at rallies, skipping atheist bake sales, letting my newsletter subscription lapse. |
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What I do know for sure about life the universe and everything is how much we don't know. For instance, for somebody to get up and trumpet evolution as the answer to how we got here is like a monkey figuring out how to turn the ignition key in a car and declaring himself an expert on the engineering behind an automobile. I appreciate that evolution is a better starting point than Ra creating the universe by making armpit farts or whatever, but it's such a small part of the big picture, whatever that picture is, that I can't get all excited about the lifting fog of mystery that surrounds creation. It still looks pretty foggy to me. |
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And there’s still the possibility that we may not even have access to clues that could tell us where we came from, why, where we're going etc. Who knows? Maybe we might as well be arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. |
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All I really know for sure is: Whatever your creed or belief system, whatever your heart may tell you, God, no matter how you may perceive him, says you owe me fifty bucks. |
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No worries: I'll pay you in the afterlife. |
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//What's so bloody sacred about religion, for chrissake?// |
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Superfulousness. A burn. Irony. Is it possible to be smashed so succinctly? |
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possibly gravity will become more interesting in the future, or maybe I will have a lot more time on my hands otherwise I doubt I will find much time on my hands for worshiping. Likely it would replace the time I spend reading ideas on the bakery...... |
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I just talked to gravity god. He says if you really
want to impress him, skip the worshiping
nonsense and get to work overcoming his mighty
grasp to move beyond cradle Earth and inhabit the
rest of the Universe as is your destiny should you
be strong enough to achieve it. |
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Only then will his children have proven they're not
a bunch of little pussies wallowing around on Earth
doing pretty much the same thing that the plants
and other animals do, namely: living, eating,
breeding and dying. Not that there's anything
wrong with that, but you're gonna want more than
that on your resume as a species. |
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So sayeth the... uh, Gravity God. |
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Heretic! You must obey the Gravity God. Down with... um... everything! |
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Schism would then mean living on the north or south side of the planet ? |
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//north or south side of the planet//
The inside, obviously... or possibly the outside. Definitely not the downside. |
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//Schism would then mean living on the// |
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