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We've heard about people standing naked in a room to be measured up by laser for perfectly fitting jeans made up mostly by automatic process within minutes. We've heard of sweaters knitted with photos on and sat in machines which sketch our picture (well, those of us who are sad enough) (^_-) ...
So
why not have tattoos designed in Photoshop and output directly to skin? There are potentially much more consistent results on offer than in submitting ourselves to the artistic mood-swings or trusting to the questionable skill of a half-inebriated tattoo artist. Tattoos of what we want without embarassment of offending the artist's sexuality, of the genre we want without finding a tattoo artist skilled in creating it, where we want without ethical debate, age-unrestricted because of the impracticality of prosecuting machinery.
- Andi (tsuchan@bigfoot.com)
More of a bot than a printer
http://www.we-make-...archives/006910.php
But, yeah, sorta Baked. [Link courtesy Worldgineer.] [DrCurry, Sep 07 2005]
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Is Photoshop the right tool? Shouldn't it be vector, rather than raster, based? |
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If you want a tattoo that perfect you are better off learning the craft yourself. And just how are these applied...by some laser?
Maori tattoos....ouch. |
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(bristolz) I agree with the Vector idea.. something like Illustrator or Freehand would be best... |
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This could work I think, but the smaller the better.. some kind of laser scanner to get the contour of your arm would be best... dont see a reason why it wouldnt work (if firmly strapped into place)... also, a pause button for those in too much pain would be good. |
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Just thought actually - something like a PinArt box, but in "higher resolution" and with sharpened pins, could apply the entire tattoo in one, terrifying, painful moment, without needing to read contours too much. |
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hmm as far as machinery directly applying the tattoo, i don't know how much i would trust that. what if you moved some? would a robotic tattoo or laser system be able to adapt to that as well as a human could? when i got my tattoo the artist said i moved just a tad but it was nothing he couldn't handle and still make look right. |
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but... the tattoo i custom designed in illustrator (vector) and printed out, and then they created a transfer to trace on my skin. i guess that's as close as it would get for me, i wouldn't trust some robotic peripheral to tattoo me. |
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Computer-printable temporary-tattoo paper is available, at least for Alps MD-1000 printers. |
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Not yet baked, but fictionally prefigured. See the mechanical pantograph version of this device in Franz Kafka's "In the Penal Colony." |
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What about something like a high-velocity bubblejet printer, that injects the ink under the skin without a needle? |
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Just a thought - this "output" machine : how would it be designed? it has to be done in such a manner that "printing" on curved surfaces could be facilitated. |
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Hmm, perhaps an arm rest with strapping attached to the side of the chair to restrict the customer.
To get accurate design use the standard car painting system with a tattooist's needle in place of the airbrush.
Adjacent to the needle use a depth sensing device similar to the type used by surveyors to measure rooms (or crown green bowlers to measure accurate distances) to calculate the distance between the needle point and the surface of the skin. |
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it could work. but as with all computer based cad work, a person has to program everything. so even with the apparatus doing the ink work, there can still be human error. |
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I prefer the human variety of tattoo artists, if only for the fact that I can severely beat a human who gives me a bad tattoo. I swear one day I'll go back to that parlour in Melbourne, and I'm taking a crowbar. Watch your back, drunk inexperienced mutilator. *Angry growl* |
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Your skin slips just a fraction during the process and the bl**y machine prints the rest offest. |
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I don't think that movement during the process would be a problem. The latest Lasec eye surgery that zaps the front of your eye is much more difficult and automatically cuts out if the eye moves. It resumes accurately after the eye stops moving... A similar control system would no doubt be applied here. |
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As long as it isn't run off Microsoft software... |
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Try a hypospray injector. I'm not sure if
they go far enough under the skin, but
a matrix of those could do the whole
tattoo at once, and wrap to the
contours of your skin as well. |
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//Your skin slips just a fraction during the process and the bl**y machine prints the rest offest// I notice in the linked picture that he's solved this using clothespins (ouch). |
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Didn't William Gibson write about
something like this already? |
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On the subject of whether or not
Photoshop is the right tool...it really
makes no difference as long as the
output DPI is greater than about 250.
Your skin cannot retain detail that well.
Use whatever you want, I say. Expecially
for the highly detailed illustrious
multicolored textured tattoos, which
would be hard to make in Illustrator in
the first place. |
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Keep in mind: most tattoo artists will
design what you give them. Just make
your design using whatever medium
you want. Simple black designs are a
snap. |
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I adhered a design which was previously
a sticker on my mirror onto a piece of
paper and handed it to the tat artist.
She reproduced in on my upper back
perfectly, since they have a purple
temporary ink output device which she
can stamp on for me to check, wash off
incase of a misalignment, repositions it,
then tattoos right over it. It's pretty
much an exact copy, and I am very
happy with it. |
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I loved your idea - you might want to tread the "Penal
Colony", a short story by Franz Kafka, in which he
describes an elaborate machine that punishes an offender
by fatally inscribing the miscreant's crimes on his body. |
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Hi everybody... it's a long time since I've been back to look at all your comments... thanks for them. |
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For joker_of_the_deck... it certainly needs to have a 3-dimensional map of the body, otherwise it wouldn't be able to stitch together designs which wrap right around limbs or the body. |
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And a 3D machine would answer Worldgineer's problem of an off-set if the subject moved: the machine would constantly adjust. |
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I was thinking, having just had a 9.5hr dragon sleeve put on my arm in Singapore, a machine may be able to have multiple simultaneous tattoo sessions, thus bringing a big tattoo into a time frame before the on-set of painful swelling. I have a feeling it may also reduce the pain to have multiple concurrent sessions. |
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My favourite idea among the suggestions, is BunsenHoneydew's high-velocity bubblejet printer. Sounds potentially very cool, Bunsen. |
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Didn't read the anno's or even body of the idea, but [+] none the less |
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Odd idea, but absolutly brilliant |
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Partially baked in Starship Troopers (the movie - I haven't read the book). The group all get military tattoos, applied by a robot tattooist. |
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Maybe Adobe Illustrator would work. |
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thnk of the possiblitys. with SDT's and health conserns who can get a tattoo nowadays.. |
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a robotic arm with a disposable cartrige should be aforderbal and easy to find in my opinion. i dont think meny of these ppl ar taking this seriously. |
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// i dont think meny of these ppl ar taking this seriously// |
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shame on dem ppl. dis is serious place. |
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Haven't checked in for a while, but felt I had to comment on this. |
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Had this idea once, and decided that you'd need a pressure sensitive collar surrounding the needle with three sensors behind it to keep the needle perpendicular to the skin. That is, as the needle head moves across the skin, it adjusts the axis of the needle depending on the pressure sensed in each sensor, attempting to keep the pressure equal. |
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As for //Your skin slips just a fraction during the process//.., maybe a trailing camera on the needle head assembly to compare the finished work with the image and adjust accordingly? |
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Or would there be too much blood? |
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I like the idea of the PinArt box thing. The pins would be replaced by hundreds of tubes that house the needles and ink. When pressed onto the skin, the tubes conform to the shape of your body part, and the needle is set to leave the tube so far, ensuring that the tattoo is neither too shallow or too deep. |
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