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Oilfields are the source for gasoline, plastic and much of
the worlds air water and ground pollution. The produce
of oilfields is one of the major causes for war, and is
what mostly fuels the battles.
The world is full of green peace like fanatics looking for
a constructive way to violently
achieve world peace.
So if they just soap up all the world's oilfields, using
halfbaked technology developed by the end of 2012,
maybe finally global peace would come.
The downside of course is that if this mindset is
prevalent, within a few years you won't be able to
connect to the internet.
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Excellent. The perfect pretext for building lots
and lots of nuclear power plants! |
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Your not grocking the mindset. |
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That's right, currently we're chuckling quietly
and gloating. |
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Two things. How is spreading soap on top of an oilfield going to interfere with pumping oil with/through enclosed structures? |
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Second, why would this work? As near as I can tell, soap in the gas-tank isn't particularly harmful, (except it may, emphasis on may) clog your fuel filter. I think all it would do would be to make refining more expensive and wasteful. |
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what exactly does the detergent do? |
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[marked-for-deletion] science, lack of. |
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// very energy inefficient
expend more
energy than you got out of the oil // |
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Your species' current process of moving the
oilfields from one place to another a little bit
at a time seems to yield more energy than it
uses
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So, the downside is that the world enters into an
immediate oil crisis. Hundreds of millions die for
lack of food, water and other such luxuries.
Millions more die in the resulting wars.
That'll show those capitalist food-eating, water-
drinking pigs! |
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The upside is that this would not work. At least,
it _would_ work, but only to the same extent as,
say, dropping large amounts of dandelion seeds on
oilfields would work. |
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I hesitate to say that this idea displays an
absolute lack of thought in any direction, because
it's always possible that [pashute] knows
something mysterious about the effect of
dumping soap around oilfields. Perhaps the soap
kills whales, whose dead bodies then drift into the
oil rigs. |
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Now that I have hesitated appropriately, I would
like to say that this idea displays an absolute lack
of thought in any direction. |
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//Your not grocking the mindset.// Close enough. Give me some of that soap. |
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This is obviously a hugely complex and subtle
multi-level pun or indeed an allegory*
relating the dependance of the Western
democracies (as personified by the Greeks)
on imported fossil fuels to the need for
soveriegn governments to work together to
clean up the environment. |
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Or then again, perhaps not. |
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*Might on close examination be a crocodile. |
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With small amounts of detergent:
"When you put a detergent or soap in an oil - like
gasoline, it attaches to the oil & any water nearby
- which liquid shampoo already has. As the
concentration of detergent is increased in relation
to water, the suspension thickens slowly until it's
semi-solid jelly, and no more detergent can be
dissolved into it." (From internet forum question
by a guy who had shampoo poured into his gas
tank) |
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With large amounts of detergent:
...oil degrading bacteria are injected into the soil
matrix... and the conditions for degredation are
optimized by adding ... a detergent to desorb the
hydrocarbons. (In-Situ Bioremediation of Oil
Contaminated Soil - Practical Experiences from
Denemark, eugris.info website) |
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So, repeating my point that you would have to inject
the detergent into the well to do any good, it would
basically turn the oilfield into something like the
stuff coming from Canadian tar sands, extremely
heavy crude. You may have noticed that said crude
is being collected and refined. It only adds cost, and
lowers the EROI, but not enough to prevent it from
being used. |
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