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Loads to space start their trip deep under the sea. The loads
are shot out of a tube of ferro cement at a 20 degree angle.
The strawberry can be protected from bruising with this
system because the air pressure and velocity is graduated over
a four mile run out the tubes barrel. A blimp hybrid
barrel
holds the section which is above sea level. At the point of
departure from the muzzle the speed may be from 2-6,000
mph. But humans need low g forces, raw materials needed
to suppress asteroid material may want to be staged at the
ready. The system uses the tripe methods of air compression
at sea, which is to carry air to depth using green systems.
Cows in space are within our grasp.
Cow jumped over the moon.
http://cyclingauckl...mped-over-the-moon/
Judging by proportions the cow was not in space and the moon was against the horizon. [rcarty, Dec 31 2010]
I knew I'd read something similar to this here.
elevator2
No strawberrys though. [2 fries shy of a happy meal, Jan 02 2011]
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I was just going to post this very idea. Now, I wonder
what the hell I was thinking. |
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I was watching the TV today and the asteroid issue
loomed heavy on me. This to me is a serious idea,
half baked? You'd have to see my notes on it, I
suppose. But I did spend some time on this project,
and do have much rough sketch work to back it up,
as a concept. The system would not be expensive
to build really. |
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Is the strawberry the payload, the projectile or part of the launching system? |
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What is the connection between strawberries and asteroids? |
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What is the "tripe" method of air compression? |
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tripe usually starts with a trip. |
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just think of the damage a strawberry could do in space & never mind all those high velocity pips. |
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//Cows in space//
please, please, please
illustrate this concept |
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1. The cows are on the earth. |
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2. The earth is in space. |
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3. Therefore, the cows are in space. |
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1. The sailors are in the submarine.
2. The submarine is in the ocean.
3. Therefore, the sailors are in the ocean.
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I tend to agree with this holistic cosmology, but Space is generally regarded as a place absent of dense matter, so a line can be quite reasonably be drawn between Earth and Space |
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Truck drivers know the most sensitive cargo is
strawberries, because they bruise easily and
require better truck suspension. Hence the
name. The control in one system, or of such an
extreme high speed launcher, to either send up
hard materials, (for satellites or to build bases on
the moon), or life, (such as humans or cows or
strawberries) is unique. We need to launch
tonnage inexpensively, environmentally. If we are
to be ready for an asteroid this is important. The
Tripe System Report gives us a look at the future
of energy systems,
www.environmentalfisherman.com It's only 11
pages and illustrated. The easy way to compress
air is to drag it to depth at sea, using wind and
wave and other forms of green energy. Tripe
stands for Track Pipe or the new energy utility and
transportation conduit system. I see a farm in a
crater on the moon. Can you see hauling up a kit
farm to the moon with our current gear? I can
not. So there is no question of the need here. I
have many illustrations and am now scanning
them all, so I can put them "out there". |
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// launch tonnage inexpensively, environmentally. // |
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Why "launch" it ? Why not just use a forced quantum singularity as an energy source to drive a matter transporter ? |
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You'll bankrupt your elves hauling stuff to orbit with Newtonian reaction drives. |
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// If we are to be ready for an asteroid this is important. // |
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No, it's not. What is most important is for your species to stop squabbling amongst yourselves and then build a base on your moon and set up some decent SpaceGuard systems. The last few times something nearly sideswiped your miserable little planet, you only noticed it when it was either right on top of you, or had actually gone past as a "near miss". Sheesh .... |
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I guess it's not enough that I have been confined to the
Milky Way Galaxy. I have been forced to contend with the
humans who find it difficult, very difficult to even try to
put a few cows up on the moon. What's next? Life is
rough; how I suffer. |
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We feel your pain, brother. They're hopeless, aren't they ? Boring, self-obsessed petty little no-marks ... |
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But soooo much fun to watch when they screw up, and they start to fight amongst themselves. An ant's nest on a sunny day, and a nice big magnifying glass, is quite entertaining, but nothing like this lot. |
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While the strawberry is travelling at escape velocity
speeds, what prevents it from being frozen / burnt /
whatever high-speed atmospheric effects you so
choose? |
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A thick layer of clotted cream. |
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Benthic Upwelling Load Laucher - Supplying Huge Initial Thrust |
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The space vehicles would differ depending on the cargo.
Humans, cows, strawberries could ride in a climate
controlled unit and hard durable good could go up in
another cheaper rocket ship. There is a need to throw
up lots of gear to get the space era going, no? So when
we use a simple, cheap, compressed air driven sea based
launcher we simply break the blimp connection, load the
cargoes down the barrel and to holding, then send up
loads, rockets. It's just a really good booster system.
That is all it is. It has the ability to fire with lots of
power, more that humans or cows or strawberries could
bear up under. Sheet aluminum, water, plastics such as
epoxies, all this sort of stuff can get sent up hard and
fast and will not be damaged. I believe we need to
conserve water in space, using closed systems to use our
bio products to for instance grow bamboo for structural
purposes. |
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well... your pipe isn't going any further than 30mi up no matter what you do, and escape-velocity is 25,000 mi/hr. We like to pretend we adhere to at least *some* of the laws of physics, here. |
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Space Bamboo would/will get my vote if posted. [edit: posted] |
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Will there be space pandas as well? |
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The Strawberry Space Load Launcher system does
allow for the future of bamboo in space, no doubt
about that, due to the quantities of water and
resins needed to formulate bamboo structures,
not to mention aluminum sheathing. Bamboo is
the space material of the future, and like the
rhubarb at home it can be made to reach for the
sun to grow the fibers longer. Pandas eat quite a
bit of bamboo, but may or may not be as suited to
the space program as our standard cows, of which
we are familiar. Panels and pipes are easy with
the bamboo fiber. And the waste from the
harvest just gets composted. There may be soil
building components on the moon that are
cheaper to transport, and from asteroids, much
iron, But the cows may be better than pandas at
CO2 production for the plants, tomato,
strawberry, bamboo, grass, plankton etc. |
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I thought a four mile long throw, or barrel would
be about right. The out of water end would want
to be light but stiff. The alternative would be to
build with steel and cement using a doughnut
vessel where the barrel would come up through.
Going up and down will cost money. Going down
means pressure problems, and going up means
stability problems. |
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Let's not assume we want a tube for the barrel. I
think the tube is the way to go and reentry issues
should settle themselves, because only a tiny
percentage of the tonnage will be wanting to
come down. Getting people down from a
practical point of view is a waste of money, but
the humans insist on the humane, as we like to
say, which is understandable of them. However a
four to one width may be the best bet, and would
allow more assembled load components to be
shipped. Also using sleeves the tube may still be
used, double, triple barrel, loads going down loads
going up. |
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The horsepower requirements of course are
substantial, but are a function of how well we do
with the tripe system and modern sea based air
compression technologies. Air of course is very
easily stored for the strawberry at depth, and not
on the surface in tanks. Perish the thought of
trying to use piston air pumps which would only
be needed at depth to bring the CA to pressures
we'll rarely need. |
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Bigsleep, tripe is from cows, and hot dogs are
from tripe, and the Fetchez la Vache is sort of like
asking a friend if he want's a hot dog, so thanks for
that. Here's to onions and mustard for the space
troops, say "pass the beans", if you wouldn't mind
too much. |
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