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lazy universe

All motion has to be forced.
 
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Is the electron in the atom really moving?

I propose that everything is still, a sort of solidified state, except for energy forcing change. Electrons and other fundamental particles are welded into current position unless the various forms on energy push a position change such as use or observation by humans or other energy shakes as we are flung through the universe.

Rather than modelling an electron as a cloud just model one position as solid, This is equal as any other position probability but it is the way the atom is a one point in time rather than trying to model the atom at all times.

The model of the atom should be a picture of the atom at one point of time showing the instantaneous links between fundamental particles.The strongest field dynamics should be shown as solid struts.

It is until it changes.

wjt, Oct 09 2020

Casimir effect https://en.wikipedi...wiki/Casimir_effect
Relevant to "neutral" volumes at the quantum level. [8th of 7, Oct 12 2020]

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       Are you trying to postulate a synthesis of macroscopic Newtonian mechanics with quantum electrodynamics ?
8th of 7, Oct 09 2020
  

       //Are you trying to postulate a synthesis of macroscopic Newtonian mechanics with quantum electrodynamics ?//   

       Yea, are you trying to postulate a synthesis of macroscopic Newtonian mechanics with quantum electrodynamics ?
doctorremulac3, Oct 10 2020
  

       We asked first.   

       So, are you ?
8th of 7, Oct 10 2020
  

       Not as yet, too many arguements to argue with. I would like another picture/model of an atom from a different perspective.   

       This perspective is not of the electrons themselves but the acts, vector force* at an instantaneous point in time. These actors are shown as solid. One such actor is the interaction - of the electron and +'s of the nucleus .   

       My imagine says it would look more like a plasma ball with it's arcs, a spiky virus or a Sacred geometry with missing edges.   

       Feynman Diagrams are a clarification, the atom and it's parts are still at the very least a 3 dimensional object. The fields are at least 3D. Or have a 3D protrusion.   

       *not really force vector in Newtonian sense, field pressure?
wjt, Oct 10 2020
  

       // a Sacred geometry with missing edges. //   

       You mean like the Kabbalah diagram ? Well, that does resemble - superficially - the QED quark "family tree" ...   

       // The fields are at least 3D. //   

       Your grasp of fundamental physics is like watching a dolphin trying to play a trombone ...
8th of 7, Oct 10 2020
  

       I take it you've never seen the Incredible Dolphin Trombone Trio in action? They do a great rendition of Fiddler Crab On The Roof.
xenzag, Oct 10 2020
  

       //Your grasp of fundamental physics is like watching a dolphin trying to play a trombone ...//   

       [MARKED-FOR-TAGLINE]
doctorremulac3, Oct 10 2020
  

       // Fiddler Crab On The Roof //   

       Oy vey ! Enough with the fish puns already...   

       Worse, Jewish fish puns. No doubt there's Lox more where that came from.
8th of 7, Oct 10 2020
  

       //Oy vey ! Enough with the fish puns already...//   

       Yes, make those fish puns go oy vey.
doctorremulac3, Oct 10 2020
  

       How does Moses make tea?
Hebrews it...
  

       Meh, quit yer carping. It was either that or Kvetch of the day.   

       DOH!!
doctorremulac3, Oct 10 2020
  

       The current cloud model shows electrons where they could be. Where's public knowledge model/diagram of the atom showing or explaining what's holding the electron at a given position?
wjt, Oct 11 2020
  

       // Enough with the fish puns// Haddock enough?
xenzag, Oct 11 2020
  

       Yea, we're fin-ished.
doctorremulac3, Oct 11 2020
  

       Let me know when the puns have tailed off and I'll engage with the idea.
pocmloc, Oct 11 2020
  

       I sort of took in a video explaining Einstein's inertial reference frame and saw the similarities with charge. So like space time the charge fabric is energetically leaning towards neural but negative needs positive to actually make a volume that looks neutral.
wjt, Oct 12 2020
  

       <Sigh/>   

       <link>
8th of 7, Oct 12 2020
  

       Nice, Casimir diagram, I sure we will eventually have the realizations and artistry show more of the Casimir is. A picture is a thousand words even if it is just one complicated force/area calculation.
wjt, Oct 14 2020
  
      
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