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iHalfBakery
A phone-friendly version of the Half Bakery | |
I use an iPhone a lot, and I have all of my favourite sites'
apps on my iPhone. I haven't been able to find any app, nor
even any suggestion that someone should devise an app,
for the iPhone. It can't be too difficult (that statement is
probably terribly demeaning to the sorts of people who
actually
do all of the programming, which I'm sure is
immensely complicated, I really have no idea), and it'd be
really helpful, it just irks me when I have to open Safari,
which is really irritating on the iPhone, to look through the
HB.
All that's necessary is a reformatting of the site, and some
kind of convenient navigation page. I'm not familiar with
BlackBerrys and other PDAs, but I'm sure there's some kind
of rough equivalent to the iPhone "app", and it could be
adapted for them as well.
I think it'd be really helpful; then again, you seasoned Half
Bakers (I'm sure that pun has been kicked to death, but
there you go) might not want to deal with people like me
having unfettered access to the HB.
http://www.halfbakery.com/lr/
The lo-res (or low-rent?) version. [jutta, Jun 04 2009]
Palm HalfBakery Portal
Palm_20HalfBakery_20Portal#964803600
[xaviergisz, Jun 04 2009]
iPhone has poor rendering?
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=672
There's an RSS client for that. [reap, Jun 05 2009]
the default /lr halfbakery home page.
/lr/view/fxc=@Halfb...n=tiny:t=halfbakery
Which may be different from your own personal root page, if you've edited that view. [jutta, Jun 05 2009]
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am I right in saying that if you are using your phone, you're not at work and so should not be reading the hb...? |
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It's amusing how all of a sudden Apple touts the fact that, basically, they haven't got a good enough browser as an advantage - "There's an app for that!" That should be "You'll need an app for that!" |
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So, what's needed beyond what the lo-res version (link) does right now? And is there some way we could be adapting the lo-res to be usable (if it isn't already) for iPhone that doesn't hurt usability on the other platforms, or does this require a completely new thing? |
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I don'thave a problem with the b/2 on iPhone and Safari. I don't really have a problem with Safari full stop. |
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Does the RSS feed version of the Halfbakery look OK on an iPhone? |
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//Does the RSS feed version of the Halfbakery look OK on an iPhone?//
I don't know - I've never been! |
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Ah, so not an Asimov story about how a website becomes sentient and subverts the laws of computing in order to free itself from its human masters then? |
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//delivers the latest headlines to my phone // |
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How does it differ from the RSS feed in results? |
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//If the Halfbakery wasn't the last site I visited, I hit 'menu', tap 'bookmarks', select 'My Halfbakery Page', then tap 'refresh'. Very easy to do, but I guess compared to using an Apple, anything's easy.//
Strange to Relate, but using the Apple iPhone it is only 3 touch options to open any bookmarked website - no need to refresh, neither!. |
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I could read the h/2 on my nokia 2600c - using either the built-in browser or opera. |
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Scrolling down to read the latest annotaion to a Vernon idea was rather tiring, however. |
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//Both the low and hi res are long winded// ... //Scrolling down to read...// That's a content issue - no amount of css or iClever is going to solve that, short of rewriting everyone's ideas and annotations into punchier versions that fit better on a 2" by 3" screen. |
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Maybe just replace all the text with nice screen-filling icons representing croissants and fishbones underlined with a caption taken from an idea that refreshes randomly whenever you shake your iDevice. |
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Then, if you like the look of it, you can go to the iHalfbakeryStore and download your idea and add it to your library. |
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//You viewed the source recently ?// [marked-for-tagline] ;) |
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You think the low-res HTML is long-winded? Can you be more specific? |
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Ayn Rand meets the halfbakery. That's all I can
think of when I see this title. |
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Alright, things are going a little bit over my head,
so I'm going to clarify using my own, admittedly
limited, vocabulary. |
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1. Formatting. When I open HB on Safari with my
iPhone, I have to zoom in and zoom out to see an
overview of the page and to read what's written
there, alternately. I'd like it if I had a page that fits
the screen of the iPhone, with legible text at the
same time. I don't know what you call it, but I've
seen it for other sites, and I know it's possible. |
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2. Navigation. Over and over again, I press the
wrong link in Safari, because the whole system is
so fiddly. If there was a proper site map, with
sensibly-sized (for the iPhone) buttons and maybe
even a proper scrolling iPhone menu, as opposed
to a web-based one. |
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3. Storing login details, and downloading pages.
The former irritates me, when I have to log in over
and over again (might be my settings); the latter
would just be useful. |
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In my opinion, the low-res version doesn't add
anything to it on the iPhone, it doesn't address
those three issues at all. Again, I don't know how
complicated the making of an app is, but I can
imagine it being really handy if it were done well. |
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[po] is there some sort of convention I'm not
aware of, that you're only allowed on the Half
Bakery when you should be doing what society
deems "meaningful" work? Isn't it a crime to spend
any spare time you have not on the bakery?
[DrBob], [blissmiss] I apologise that my idea didn't
live up to the expectations its name raised. |
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// Both the low and hi-res depend heavily on tables and top-up font styling. |
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Ah. Actually, the lo-res version has a lot less table-based styling; none at all in the actually idea text, and none if you're selecting a non-table based presentation for the root page. But it's true that the default lr/ view is a table, with a comparatively small amount of styling in it, some of which is annoying and useless. |
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There are some things that CSS is great at, but laying out dynamically sized table cells isn't one of them, in my admittedly limited experience. |
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duh_don, thanks for the details. That bump in po's cheek is her tongue. |
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//That bump in po's cheek is her tongue.//
Are you sure? Normally it's a choccie biscuit. |
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I was writing tongue firmly in cheek as well, don't you
worry. |
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[21Q] can you give me a path for this? I'm not getting it,
and would love to do this. |
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[jutta] As [duh_don] said, the iPhone system is fiddly. And
as you said, (indirectly) this is a failing of the iphone, not
of the HB. The problem is readability without having to
expand the text in the little screen, which is likely to do
any number of unintended things. |
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This annotation took me fourteen years to write
'Cause I'm twenty feet tall. |
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The lr version loads faster out here in the country, I think. |
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