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Carotid massage causes dreamy calmness
there are risks though; physicians usually have a
defibrillator cart at the ready
lacking a defibrillator cart but being stupid n daring I
followed the description at [link]
I think the same effects could be created with a vibrator
or even sonic item;
that would reduce the TIA or
atherosclerotic plaque detachment risk
basically I think the nerves there can be activated absent
the finger pressure.
If it is harmless they could do a study comparing it to the
likelihood of an untutored person feeling calmer from
meditation. If the vibrator works better than meditation
is could be popular and beneficial, as well as easier.
carotid massage; READ WARNING
http://www.fpnotebook.com/CV100.htm
Start with carotid sinus on right side Massage location firmly but gently Use same pressure that would indent tennis ball Do not apply so much pressure to occlude carotid Continue massage for 5 second period [beanangel, Oct 06 2007]
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When I used to practice judo, before blowing out an ACL, I massaged a carotid or two. It certainly pacifies people, right into unconsciousness. |
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are you looking for guinea pigs or what? |
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I thought I might try it to see if reduces OCDish behavior |
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it just sounds so bizarre that I thought people here would find it thought provoking |
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//I think the same effects could be created
with a vibrator or even sonic item; that
would reduce the TIA or atherosclerotic
plaque detachment risk// Why would the
same effects be created? Also, I would
expect fast vibration or sonication to be
more - not less - likely than massage to
dislodge atherosclerotic plaques. |
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I thought that unilateral carotid
massage slowed the heart via vagal
stimulation. I am not sure why this
would produce a dreamy calmness
unless it is by underperfusing the brain.
I suppose that could do it. |
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[Treon], did it help with OCDish
behavior? |
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Similar experience to [GutPunchLullabies] but in bjj. In bjj though the guard is prevalent and encouraging a person to break it sometimes involves "massaging" the femoral artery with your elbow. It is hilariously painful and makes you want to cry like a girly man. This indicates that there is a relatively high sensitivity, so gentle massage (of more accesible arteries like carotids) may have some positive effect. |
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Classes in bjj where chokes were practiced (not to unconsciousness) for any length of time usually left me with slight light headedness with small pinpricks of light appearing in my vision. Yes o2 starvation of the brain- (a good choke will stop blood flow and put you out in 5- 10 seconds) I have seen many choked out during comps, The choke is removed and they are placed in lateral recovery position and they start twitching pretty quick, and come around fully shortly thereafter. So I don't know that you would need a defibrilator. |
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The annos remind me of when I once killed a goat that had been run over. I didn't like my chances of being able to break its neck cleanly and I didn't think that strangling it would really serve my purpose of ending its suffering, so I decided to hold its carotid arteries (which were quite prominent). It didn't seem bothered by me (it had other things to worry about) and soon fell asleep and died. |
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Good work, [marklar]. Some unpleasant tasks get done in doing good deeds some times, and not many people are willing to do them. |
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Well done, but what you did is the very definition of strangling. |
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