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bottom up design
A mass of tabletop experiments to find how to make a single atom unstable. | |
In my mind, atoms are so small that any nuclear
experiment
is a group situation. This means that any environment
variables are working on a collective and the effects on
each individual member is unknown. Effectively the
experiment is a black kettle.
What if an atom can be trapped and manipulated
alone
by
all the environmental variable changes possible. With a
large array of testing, a set of precision changes, a
beautiful song of energy that will loosen up an atom's
stability without the need for blind blunt energy raising
cooking.
Of course the complexity of the universe is such that
knowing an individual atom's instability doesn't mean
that
that a groups instability will be known but of course
having
the individuals notes helps to write the group music.
It would be the dawning of a new age if one atom could
be
unwrapped and the energy harnessed.
Moving atoms
https://www.google....ome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
Manipulation of individual atoms [csea, Jun 03 2017]
Quantum Zeno Effect
https://en.wikipedi...Quantum_Zeno_effect
[theircompetitor, Jun 13 2017]
removing electrons can cause different atom decays at atom smashers
https://t2k-experim...es-and-experiments/
[beanangel, May 11 2021]
[link]
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<thinking>How do I state this? </thinking> From a
layman's perspective all nuclear chemical reactions look
like cooking experiments but at extremely high
temperatures and specialised energies. Cooking, not
engineering. |
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If we have such a beautiful mathematical plan of an
atom, shouldn't we be able to work out the perfect
energy actions to undo the atom in an engineering type
way? |
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Rather than randomly hammering and heating the nut
stuck in the wall, throw spinning spanners at it. |
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I still don't know if it's sensible, but at least I
understand it now. |
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With photolithography and 3D printing we should be able to produce some very complex electron and magnetic shaddowing masks. |
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Trying to make magnetism and charge patterns unseen by nature would definitely be a start to making an atom unstable. |
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[csea] From the electrons perspective, atoms look pretty round but electrons don't really like electrons. |
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So, WIBNI we knew more about atoms, because then, somehow, the strong and/or weak nuclear forces would go "ping". Orchestration to follow. |
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//bottom up design// isn't that how they make politicians? |
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Either wjt hasn't read much about the standard
model and all of the great things we can do with
lasers lately, or I'm misunderstanding this. |
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The imagined volume that a laser produces must look
interesting when exhibited at Max's Gold exhibit. |
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Incidentally, [wjt], you may (or may not) be interested to know that, if you can observe the nucleus of certain radioactive atoms with sufficient precision, you can prevent them from decaying, because their decay involves a quantum tunnelling event which is prevented by observation. |
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Yes, but it only works if if it's a Paddington Special Hard Stare ... |
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[Max] That just says to me that 'observation' is an energy, a
touch and we just changed the dynamics of those unstable
isotopes.( rephrasing [8th] ) |
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Well, yes, but no. "Energy" has a fairly specific meaning, and "observation" can't be "an energy". It's all got something to do with that spooky quantummy business. |
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// From the electrons perspective, atoms look pretty round // |
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Is it too late to point out that an atom can't "look" like anything to an electron ? |
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An atom consists at a minimum of a proton and an electron in interaction. Any observation of the system will modify its state such that the data obtained by observation is immediately "aged", i.e. no longer current (valid). |
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Protons and electrons have no "perception" of each other; perception is a non-quantum, human concept. |
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You'll be advocating action at a distance next ... |
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<sadly shaking head> [8th of 7] You should know me by now.
'Looks' in a very very loose usage. Either the electron is part
of the fabric such as you elbow in your arm and sees the
forces moving through it or it is individualised such as your
elbow seeing the door frame as you you go through. |
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I like the idea of doing stuff to individual atoms to see if
it effects radioactive decay. There's new stuff to do all
the time: |
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The delayed quantum choice eraser uses laser optics to
do something that some physicists call "retrocausal",
others call "heralding" and other say different things
about. At the retrocausal interpretation making the
beamsplitters and lenses out of radioactive material could
possibly catch retrocausality at radioactive decay, or
cause delayed radioactive decay. If it is possible to
devise a "time speeds up" variant of the delayed quantum
choice eraser experiment then they could see if that
accelerated radioactive decay at actual radioactive atoms
in the optics; similarly the delayed choice quantum eraser
experiment was done in air, so that suggests a radioactive
gas, and laser immobilized atoms, could be at the
retrocausal physical point (if there is one; retrocauslity
may be spread across the entire apparatus) or a few
atoms from it. |
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radioactive bose einstein condensate, with one
technetium atom, what happens to it when the
technetium atom predictably decays? I do not know. |
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As to effecting radioactivity I think the strong and weak
nuclear forces are associated with nucleus "cohesion";
that suggests any space in the equations to effect those
could be a basis for more "spanners to throw" at the
atoms to see if they change. |
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If you wanted to run a very thin atom through a very thick
atom you could accelerate protons to 99.9999 percent of
the speed of light (routine), and then have them meet
atoms in a different frame of reference that did not
experience matter compression (foreshortening) from
relativity; the thin disc atom would "scan" through the
stationary atom it was "not colliding" with, and other
atoms quantum entangled to the scanning thin disc atom
might change based on what they reacted to at the
interior at the plump atom. |
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Just thinking of it, quantum entangling [linking] a bunch
of photons to a proton, accelerating the proton to
relativistic thinness, and using the linked proton beam,
spray, or dribble to scan matter at depth could actually
find the chemistry of various things to the depth of
material or tissue that a relativistically accelerated
proton can go; a new kind of scanner. |
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I think there's something called IT pattern resonance, it is
possible that radioactivity might occur at different
velocities in live humans, uninterred car accident
remains, and interred (buried) bodies. This would be
easy to test with voluntary isotope injections of very aged
people in nursing homes expected to have less than a
year to live. If it is findable, then that would be big news. |
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//radioactive bose einstein condensate//
That's actually a worthy candidate for research. You should
find a local university (or lab of some other flavour) that
works with ultra-cold and suggest it. |
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I make atoms unstable every time I move. I make atoms unstable every time I THINK about moving. It's easy when you're as large as I am. |
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I just read that neutrino generators make different
atomic particles bases on adjusting the e- charge of the
atom, "The idea of the beta beam is to increase the
neutrino energy by stripping the electrons off the
radioactive isotope and then accelerating the positively
charged ion to high energies before it decays. This boosts
the energy of the neutrinos produced, and also collimates
them into a fairly narrow beam" [link] |
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So there is one example where wiggling charge effects
the output of a atom-smasher event. |
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//What if an atom can be trapped and manipulated alone// |
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Your atom wants a lawyer. |
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//throw spinning spanners at it// |
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So ... you're going to make a spanner out of neutrinos? If so,
then how, and, if not, then what? |
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There is neutrino detector that weighs just 15 Kg,
assuming it gets 11 times (or more) better at detecting
neutrinos or 11 times smaller (or more) can detect
neutrino beams. neutrino beams can be made a with a
narrow tube of cobalt 51 or produced through lasers-zap-
foil-really-hard radiation generators (small form factor). |
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One of the possible benefits scanning neutrino beams
through things like brains is imaging at depth. Another
application is finding oil, gas, and other ores by putting
narrow beam neutrino emitters and detectors down drill
holes to scan Km of earth for minerals. |
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Another application of neutrino beams is Greenshift. |
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[pertinax] I noticed I did not actually answer your question.
basically [wjt] could make a radiation sandwich, and then
swap out a bunch of different stable and unstable isotopes
(there are only about 1000 (?)) to see if any of them
experienced something different than the predicted rate of
decay. |
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=======[ radiation shield] I(sotope being tested) is an ascii
diagram of a radiation sandwich. |
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