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Untied

 shirts that end the era of necktie tyranny
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A new line of future fashion has hit the racks of male boutiques and men’s departments, promising comfort and simplicity. The unlikely dress shirt and undershirt combinations will mean the death of the cravat, to the cheers of men everywhere.

On top is worn the custom dress shirt with cutout “tie” and hooked collar. Underneath is worn a colorful silk or knit t-shirt or tank top. The result is an airy, comfy illusion fooling everyone but your neck. For a really laid back look, skip the T, giving a skin-toned or furry necktie.

—FarmerJohn, Sep 02 2004

drawing http://www.geocitie...ohnnie/untied.html?
[FarmerJohn, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 05 2004]

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       I like it. I can't stand ties. +
—DrBob, Sep 02 2004
   

       Exactly = +
—skinflaps, Sep 02 2004
   

       unnecessarily brilliant +
—jonthegeologist, Sep 02 2004
   

       ... but boys, you look so charming wearing a tie!
—po, Sep 02 2004
   

       Awesome.
—cromagnon, Sep 02 2004
   

       Very nice. I like the shirt--it will show off my colorful tattoo.
—ldischler, Sep 02 2004
   

       untied is united spelled sideways. dentworth needs more coffee...
—dentworth, Sep 02 2004
   

       Is their a bow-tie shaped holed one for posh dos?
—goff, Sep 02 2004
   

       Inspired.
—calum, Sep 02 2004
   

       FJ, you have DNA samples preserved, right?+
—theircompetitor, Sep 02 2004
   

       Dyslexics of the world untie!   

       great idea, but what is to keep the shirt hole tie-shaped as opposed to just flapping in the wind like leaving half the buttons unbuttoned?
—brodie, Sep 02 2004
   

       Starch.
—yabba do yabba dabba, Sep 02 2004
   

       I agree with [Po]...gentlemen wearing neckties=charming & handsome. But as long as [FJ]'s latest creation looks like the real thing...
—Machiavelli, Sep 02 2004
   

       Heh. Clever.
—bristolz, Sep 02 2004
   

       Beautiful. +++
—sartep, Sep 02 2004
   

       One would wear a tie-dye shirt, I take it?
—RayfordSteele, Sep 02 2004
   

       Pure genius. And in the evening, just unhook the top and wear with a furry vest and medallion for that Miami Vice drug dealer look. +
—spacemoggy, Sep 02 2004
   

       I’ve noticed a lot of people applying a similar principle achieve to the illusion of a skin-toned cummerbund.
—AO, Sep 02 2004
   

       This idea rocks - I want it with a plastic undershirt so I can show off my superfluous third nipple. I also agree that there might be a certain amount of wind-flap action... perhaps a calico stiffener around the edge.
—Nontaigne, Sep 02 2004
   

       I like the motive behind the idea, but won't any measures such as stiffening the collar or still having a top button recreate the very discomfort we are trying to avoid?
—radicalllama, Sep 02 2004
   

       no more changing ties as the fashion undulates between Kipper Tie and 80s' thin, simply loosen or tighten your flaps.
—neilp, Sep 02 2004
   

       Hmph. If only this was out, I wouldn't of had to learn how to tie a tie. Nice idea, btw. Very easy to make... *looks for old dress shirts*
—ghillie, Sep 02 2004
   

       Ok, but I have to own up to the fact that slowly undoing a man's tie, (the man smell mixed with the day long dissipation of the cologne smell), and the feel of a fine material being held between my fingers, and the touch of it, and the touch of a bit of skin near it, a single hair brushing against my nearness to him, is a very, very, wonderful blend of smell, and history of his day, and the knot ...   

       It's like the difference between a woman wearing "Hanes Her Way", underneath a classic little black dress.   

       A + for the concept. but please forgive the next woman you undress, who has drawn a thong on to her grannies size 90 unders.
—blissmiss, Sep 03 2004
   

       Haha, good one, [blissmiss]!!!
—Machiavelli, Sep 03 2004
   

       I need a holiday. I can now spot a [FarmerJohn] idea just by looking at the title.
—English Bob, Sep 03 2004
   

       BlissMiss... I agree. My neck ties have been used by my gf for all kind of post work shennanigans.
—etherman, Sep 03 2004
   

       //grannies size 90 unders//

<Leslie Phillips> Ding! Dong! </LP>
—DrBob, Sep 03 2004
   

       + I hate ties
—DesertFox, Sep 03 2004
   

       + Fashion genius. Also + for blissmiss for injecting a bit of gentle raunch into my morning.
—zen_tom, Sep 03 2004
   

       A hairy man could skip the underneath shirt for an interesting look.
—lintkeeper2, Sep 03 2004
   

       Could be a problem for women who like to throw on their boyfriends' shirts. A little extra unanticipated air-conditioning.
—robinism, Sep 03 2004
   

       "They appear to relish..."   

         

       Quite true. I guess that would make the Untie even _more_ popular.
—robinism, Sep 03 2004
   

       "Having just read your profile page, I am curious, why do you visit, and/or post on a site that you seem to dislike so much?"   

       As I said, I like the ideas.
—robinism, Sep 03 2004
   

       Barring that, would you mind moving this personal discussion to e-mail or a halfbakery-oriented social forum? All of you have e-mail addresses in your profiles...
—jutta, Sep 04 2004
   

       The [po], [Mach] and [bliss] posts illustrate exactly why this is a poor idea.
—bpilot, Sep 04 2004
   
      
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