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"Um" (var. "Ummm" "Uhmm", "mmm", "uhhh", "errmm") has a use in informal vocal speech: it indicates a "think break". However, and I can't stress this enough, the proper usage is "I'm not sure we're on the same page" or, more rarely, "I regret in advance what I'm going to say next", not "I haven't put
enough forethought into the conversation, nor sufficient drugs into/outof my system yet, to converse in a timely responsible fashion".
"The sky is fuschia and I found only three spiders in my hair this morning."
"Umm...."
Anyways...
The Um Filter is an app that scouts ahead in a buffered media stream, for "umm"s. Words that actually do end in "um" can be left intact since the filler "um" usually has a more extended "mmmm".
The offensive syllable is then simply replaced, by ambient background, or a selection of bird and animal noises.
Further filters are in the development stage.
Oh, come on.
http://www.youtube....watch?v=UYcz4dGtH1I The companies these guys represent are *big* names. I'd have dissed the interviewer too but I tend to sound like that before the first cuppa the day. One can only assume a hella convention party the night before.. [FlyingToaster, Feb 01 2013]
Unlisted ums
http://www.youtube....watch?v=o7dQeya15UE This isn't even all of them from one four minute video [nineteenthly, Feb 01 2013]
Astrojet space scramjet
https://www.youtube...watch?v=Lfwg6nQqv-0 Mentioned in my anno. [notexactly, Jan 15 2016]
[link]
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Strange though it may seem, since i've been making YouTube vids every day i've spent ages looking at the wave form of my "ums" and can now recognise them by sight alone. However, their M's can be just as short as the ones at the end of "mum" or "come" and they tend to run into the next word without a break. Having said that, i like your idea and wonder if i can do something in Audacity to take them out. I suppose also that it might be easier to train oneself to avoid using words which contain the syllable "um" than not to um at all. |
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well... some people use the rather versatile "f*ck".
But the usage is different: rather than separating (sub)phrases like "umm" does, "f*ck" simply fits into the conversation mostly as grammatically correct superfluous adjectives and exclamations, delivering the same content without pauses. |
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[19thly] do you ever use a script? or just keep the flow ad-hoc. |
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Train yourself not to use "umm", "you know", "Then
you turn around and", "aaanndd" or any other of these
prolongation devices people use, usually as a
placeholder to ensure they don't lose the floor to
someone talking in the space they would other wise
use. |
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This would be a good alternative to the above, [FT]. I
have seen/heard very senior politicians using
prolongation devices. This is something I find
annoying in the extreme. People who make their
living from words should know better. |
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People on the internet send me emails every week offering me 'prolongation devices' and pills. |
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Here the beef with umming seems to be based on its use in discussion / conversation, rather than in a recorded presentation, where the proposed idea would work. That said, I have seen too many talks, presentations and webinars where umming and use of other crutches (essentially, the thing is, to be clear) is utterly distracting. If the playback ums were replaced with beeps or chainsaw noises, it could work as a training tool. |
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I do use a script and ad lib a lot, but to use a script introduces the dangers of it becoming obvious that i'm reading and of losing eye contact. In fact i use the script as a prop in a few videos. |
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Off-topic a bit, but i've often wondered why more HB stuff isn't on YouTube. |
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^villagers with pitchforks spring to mind. |
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Don't read anything into it [nineteenthly] but you look almost exactly what I've pictured you as. |
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[edit: notwithstanding that I've probably seen at least one of your videos over the years] |
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Ha, great link ninteenthly, so glad I'm in good company. |
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Oh I was thinking Um Filler!! |
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Speech with no filler words sounds unnatural. It's
one of the clues that someone on the radio is reading
off a card. |
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Really, [ytk]? I'd challenge that statement. There are
many announcers who are sufficiently professional that
they never use "fillers", even in casual conversation. |
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Given that i can now recognise the shape of my "ums" along with the fact that they always have a pause before them, i feel sure this is doable, in a similar way to click and noise removal. In fact, for all i know noise removal might actually remove them itself. |
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[FT], funny you should say that because in another place someone said i looked the exact opposite of what they were expecting. |
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They were expecting a short, fat woman with a shaven head? |
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I sometimes um, but when I don't, it doesn't mean I'm reading from a card; it means I've thought in advance about what I'm going to say. |
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If you can sustain this face-to-face, even only for the length of the oral equivalent of one good paragraph, it sometimes scares the hell out of people, in a good way. |
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I spent a lot of Tuesday nights teaching Toastmasters
courses to people. Sloppy speech habits can be broken
down and rebuilt to develop smooth oratory styles. |
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Well, seeing as i was calling myself Amanda, at least two of those things is possible, [UB]. |
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I'm struggling with it at the moment. I stuttered a bit as a child and the ums came in to replace that really. Maybe if i started scatting i could beat both. |
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I've now selected "um"s from a recording of myself and mixed them together, then used it as a sample for noise reduction. I found that it was an almost complete failure except that it succeeded in removing the "om" in "something". |
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Long time ago, [19]. 1992-1994, from memory. |
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A variation would be to replace "you know" (or the
even more annoying "y'know") with "um" or "mm."
Especially for certain CNN International
correspondents of the feminine variety, not to pick
on anyone in particular. |
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Or take her aside and put her through a voice coaching
and public speaking course. |
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The last time I attempted taking a news
correspondent aside, security escorted me from the
building and told me not to come back. |
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They did agree with my point about "y'know," and I
appreciate that I didn't hit the pavement face first. |
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I was suggesting that her employer do it, rather than
some mouthbreather from the public gallery. |
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// //Off-topic a bit, but i've often wondered why more HB
stuff isn't on YouTube// |
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Googles "YouTube". Talkies eh? They will never catch on . // |
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Doubly relevant YouTube video: [link] |
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