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This device consists of the following:
A set of 1 kilometer high towers support a huge block of
frozen air, pool of liquid hydrogen, or a radiator filled with an environmentally friendly coolant at a very low temperature.
Beneath them an equally massive pool of almost boiling water
is maintained.
Hopefully
a tornado will develop.
edit:
bonus:
Put these in unpopulated tornado-prone areas to spawn tornadoes away from the cities, equalizing air temperatures and sapping tornado energy.
(?) make a mini tornado
http://www.youtube....watch?v=1zmhvRiWDHs
[xandram, Oct 04 2011]
xkcd: cold air
https://xkcd.com/3016/
[Voice, Mar 10 2025]
I see your tornado...
CoandaTornado
...and raise you a lasso for it. [2 fries shy of a happy meal, Mar 13 2025]
[link]
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Maybe the hot water needs to go around the edge
of the base and the frozen air towards the center?
Might that work better? |
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A few massive jet engines powering at a 45 degree
angle around the edge might also start the swirling
needed to kick-start the vortex. |
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Lastly, 1,000 pounds of glittering confetti to feed
into the tornado will just top it all off! |
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Not sure how I missed this one. (+) Making a tornado is as easy as taking both ends off of a tin can, splitting it in half and slightly offsetting the alignment of those halves above a rising heat source. |
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I am currently working on designing a series of 10 x 10 ft. gazebos with black metal roofs to cover a 6400 square foot area in such a way that any incoming heat is made to passively climb and tornado towards a central turbine. I then intend to shunt all waste heat from an adjacent pub and laundromat to enter this space at floor height from opposite directions adding to the vortex. The roofs of these two buildings will also be covered in vertical wind turbines which do nothing more than dump direct current into resistance heaters burried in the sand beneath the courtyard.
This will create a chimney effect reaching WAY far higher into the air than I could ever have engineered so I've decided to go with nested spinning silk kites for the turbine blades which can be extended far into the air depending on the BTU's of the tornado. |
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Later I'm going to wrap that tornado into a vortex ring and not allow any of the heat to dissipate until it has entirely expended itself turning a completely unique turbine blade system which I hope to have the bugs worked out of by the time I'm ready. [link] |
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Wish me luck. I'll let you guys know how it goes. |
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Give me a couple of years, I've got a lot more than that on my plate and it's going to take a few bucks but I'm doing it anyway.
I'm gonna make a freakin heat-farm folks.
We will be able to walk from minus 20 temperatures through a rising curtain of heated air to enter a 6400 sq.ft. outdoor structure, with no walls, where we're all in our t-shirts while hosting our local Farmers/Craft-market in the middle of winter. |
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I can't help but wonder how far I'll be allowed to extend my kites into my maelstrom before the FAA shut me down. |
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Will it be felt by low flying aircraft? |
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I also wonder if I will change the weather pattern directly above my structure so that things like fog and rain, perhaps even clouds just kind of avoid my tornado and if it will create a semi-perpetual shaft of blue sky above our little Geodescazebo tornado maker thingy. |
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I'm gonna find out one way or another... |
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If I'm passing that way, I'll hold your beer. |
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That's pretty ambitious, but considering all you've done already I believe you'll accomplish it. But are you sure you're not massively overestimating the amount of heat you're going to get? And by "no walls" you surely aren't saying that sunlight, one laundromat and one pub will heat 6400 feet of space not surrounded by walls? You would need megawatts for that. |
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I'm going to create a space where the walls don't matter. |
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Any rising heat becomes resistant heat beneath our feet from the turbine. Any vertical rooftop turbines dump heat beneath our feet in the same fashion. Waste heat from the adjacent businesses is just others paying me to do something with their waste heat. |
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The fact that I've figured out how to wrap all of that waste heat into a vortex ring and utilize it without a stack has you scared. |
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// Any rising heat becomes resistant heat beneath our feet from the turbine.// |
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Rising heat as in it's already in the air and rising? Physics says that's going to keep rising unless it's constrained by walls or something else. And while it may create a natural vortex as it rises, it will thereby pull in cold air from around itself as it rises. Lots of turbulence. Lots of lost heat. You said //any incoming heat is made to passively climb and tornado towards a central turbine. //
A turbine in an enclosed space with hot something going through and making it turn I understand. Wind turbines I understand. But even if you have a series of horizontally oriented wind turbines above your area they won't return enough energy to heat that space and thereby power themselves. All they can do is scavenge energy that would otherwise be wasted. |
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Well, the metal roof panels will be painted black to collect heat from solar radiation. The vertical wind turbines will power resistance elements in the sand to slowly radiate upwards, and all waste heat will be directed to enter the system at ground level from opposing directions to augment the tornado. |
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From ground level to above head-height the tornado will be gentle. At the apex of the structure it will be fierce. |
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Normally this warm air would all rush upwards out the chimney and drag cold air in from the sides, but I figured out how to trap the tornado in a perpetual vortex ring so that the upwards rush is retarded to the point where the heated air radiating upwards from beneath our feet will basically become its own weather system displacing cold air from entering until the heat from beneath stops radiating upwards. |
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The walls will be the invisible boundary layer created between the rising hot air tornado and the surrounding cold air. |
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It's a solar updraft tower which doesn't need a massive chimney, and I estimate that it will generate enough heat that I will need to regulate it by changing the shape of the vortex configuration and periodically allowing it to escape unless I can tie directly into the grid turning my electrical meter backwards. |
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Our power bill for two months of winter was $5,000 just to keep our pipes from freezing during the time we have the fewest guests.
The cost of power is supposed to double in the next few years, and this place is less than halfway brought back to life.
I either figure out how to make my own power, or they're going to bankrupt me just to keep the lights on. |
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Step right up folks! Place your bets! |
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