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It turns out that animals can learn through mimicking and
imitation. (Read Temple Grandin's book several years ago.
Yesterday I was going to ask on Quora: "what was that
research
Grandin wrote about where they discovered that birds can
learn stuff in seconds that they tried to teach them through
those brutal behaviorism tests for years". Instead I googled
for
bird mimick research and within a few seconds was reading
the
original research of Thomas Zentall and all the new research
they have about animal intelligence.
So now the question is: How do we teach them (dolfins,
gorillas, parrots, myna birds, or octopuses) to play chess,
checkers or go? Lets start with tick tack toe...
Which brings up my next idea...
Games For Dolphins
Tic-Tac-Toe_20for_20Dolphins
We've already discussed tic-tac-toe for dolphins... [neutrinos_shadow, Dec 07 2020]
learning and adaptation in animals
https://link.spring.../10.1007/BF02436334
[pashute, Dec 07 2020]
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Animals will be fine at copying the movements, but not at
understanding the planning & thought processes behind the
movements for complex games. IE: to teach some-one
chess, it's not just "move this to there", but WHY you move
this to there. |
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Maybe one animal could be taught to do the moving, and the next animal could be taught the rules, and a third could have the strategic overview. That way each animal is taught a manageable task. |
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Seriously, Zental's tests showed they were able to apply
mimicry and immitation to new situations in what we would
definitely consider intelligent in humans. |
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So don't get stuck in the nonintelligent rut of thinking that
animals just can't do it, but rather think HOW we get them
to
do it. A tiger can scheme and watch its pray and get it into
a
trap, a crow outwits its fellow cage mate pretending to
hide
something where it isn't, so why wouldn't a monkey or
parrot
be able to grasp the rules, observe the options, and try to
outwit us? |
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I'm pretty sure a crocodile is intelligent enough to trick a
handler
that it's learning chess, and then surprise him with that
variant of
Scholar's Mate which ends in a sudden drowning. |
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// That way each animal is taught a manageable task. // |
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... such as wearing a nice suit, eating big dinners, and spouting irrelevant rubbish- more of a management task.... |
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