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There are many circumstances in which having a publicly accessible source of mains power might prove a benefit.
The proposal is for a street lamp with a built in metered power outlet.
Street lamps are ideal as they already have a substantial mains power supply.
Simply integrate a small weatherproof
hatch onto the side of the pole, covering a mains outlet standard for the country. Engrave a number on the pole.
When you wish to obtain some electricty, go to the pole of your choice and dial the central phone number. Enter the code of the pole you wish to use, and your PIN number.
The power outlet activates and will deliver a fixed amount of electrical energy; your phone/credit card/account is charged accordingly. If you don't use all the energy you've bought, it goes onto your "credit balance". The transaction is terminated by unplugging the connection and closing the waterproof flap.
The energy would be charged for at a premium rate to finance the cost of maintaining and expanding the system. Initial installations would be in high traffic areas like city centres and the revenue used to finance lower-traffic locales until every street lamp is equipped.
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Groups of young people could gather on warm summer nights, play music and socialize. |
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Wah ... wah.... wah ..... waaaaaaaaaaaa |
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<Strikes [normzone] from Christmas Card list> |
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Indeed. Consider thyself well and truly stricken. |
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Ah, but coin meters need emptying. This is cashless. |
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I would love to live in a country like that. I
think free is the word we are looking for
here. Public and free with limits on the
usage. Attach a camera to monitor usage.
Nothing to break or vandalize. We have
some units in our parks here but their use
is technically illegal so user beware. |
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+ I'll start carrying my hair dryer around with me. |
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I don't see why you should have to pay for the power. |
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Because otherwise there will be no revenue stream to finance and expand the network, and no incentive to roll out the technology. |
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At the moment, street lamps are a "total loss"; by that it is meant that they generate no revenue, but have significant capital and revenue costs. Their notional "value" is in the actual and perceived improvements in road and public safety. |
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Converting them into pay-as-you-go power outlets would mean that the units have the potential to bring in some revenue. The metering unit will be relatively cheap as a proportion of the total cost of a replacement streetlamp, so as the population ages and more efficient units are installed, the power-outlet lamps would spread "organically". |
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Nice idea but I forsee a number of difficulties.
In the UK, the street lights are owned by local councils, not by the private power companies. This means that councils might well be acting ultra vires (beyond their powers) if they tried to sell the electricity on, it would also raise issues about competition regulations and their status vis-a-vis the VAT laws.
However, they might be able to get round this by acting as agent for the power companies rather than selling on the electricity per se but then, what's the council's incentive in this? The street lights still belong to them and the liabilities associated with their use fall upon the council. In order to cover issues of safety, maintence, vandalism, administration and insurance, the markup on the cost for the electricity would likely be so enormous (I haven't done the math on this, it's just an assumption on my part) as to discourage anyone from using it except in an emergency. With such a commercially unattractive proposition it would be unlikely that anyone would invest in providing the equiment.
//At the moment, street lamps are a "total loss"; by that it is meant that they generate no revenue//
From a council's perspective, that's not entirely true (I'm assuming here that by 'revenue' you really mean 'income'?). Maintaining the street lighting is one of the council's core functions and as such, councils receive grant income from central government to help with the costs. Whilst this is probably of little comfort to tax payers, in terms of local government accounting rules, this is a generation of external income. |
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Bravo (+). I'd even take is a step farther and do the same with parking meters, where the other half of the problem is already solved. Metering sounds expensive though, I might just go with a low limit auto-resetting breaker at least at first. Till the revenue stream starts, though maybe metering isn't that much. |
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Roman-dutch law (correct me if I am wrong) allows for vicarious liability. Neither the council owning the street lamps, nor the entity supplying the power to the aforementioned streetlamp, is going to be up for paying the bill to maintain, in reasonable condition, or such condition as specified by (insert statute or act), nor pay compensation to those harmed by the streetlamp under discussion. |
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Basically if you steal power, or try and steal power, from the lamp you will be "charged", so to speak. However, if you try and get power legitimately, and the pole has been tampered with by eg. hoodies, and you suffer loss as a direct result of such action. The council (as owner), and perhaps the supplier, may be held accountable for such loss. Given human nature, no-one will be eager to implement such a system. |
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I realise that cyborgs are constitutionally disadvantaged by being limited to "powering up" either at home or the workplace, but until such basic humanoid rights become legislation you will have to contend with the status quo... |
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It is a good idea, however. |
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// constitutionally disadvantaged by being limited to "powering up" either at home or the workplace // |
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Too right. You have your MacBurgers, your Starbucks, your Dunkin' Donuts ... we have to buy D cells by the case, and then take ages getting them out of those stupid little blister packs. Unfair, it is. Discrimination, pure and simple. You wait ... you'll be sorry .... |
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