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When you're fed up of being drunk or are otherwise undesirably intoxicated by alcohol, for instance when you're in a coma, hook yourself up to a dialysis machine containing a lipid membrane studded with transport proteins for ethanol. The ethanol in your blood, but not its metabolites, will pass through
but many other solutes won't. The other side of the membrane will then accumulate a liquid relatively high in ethanol and you will sober up. Distil that liquid and reintoxicate yourself with it when desired.
I can see the following problems with this: I'm not aware of an actual transport protein specific for ethanol, other solutes will pass over and be distilled too and it doesn't remove the secondary metabolites.
I'm a teetotaler from a long line of alcoholics.
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I suspect there isn't an ethanol transporter - we don't
normally encounter much ethanol (except at weekends),
and in any case it probably diffuses quite nicely through
membranes. |
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However, you don't need a transporter. Just use
diffusion, like regular dialysis. The buffer liquid just needs
to contain whatever salt/sugar mix is used for regular
dialysis. I'm pretty sure that regular dialysis tubing is
permeable to ethanol. Should work handy dandy. In fact,
I dare say that regular dialysis patients may be able to
confirm the sobering effect of dialysis. |
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Wow, it could actually work. I'll have to ask someone about that. |
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If you Google "dialysis alcohol sober", you'll find a few
references to this scattered amongst the junk. Impressively,
this idea comes up tops. |
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Usually, the halfbakery idea coming up first while researching the halfbakery idea is not a good sign... |
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an added benefit is less stress on the liver?
..(*would I have an after treatment hang over? ) |
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always good to have more good wise options to
drunkenly overlook, while in a stupor. |
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designated driver, call a cab, call the portable
dialysis treatment, or...drive drunk and stupid
...*(be green and use the ethanol as a BIO fuel on
the way home ) |
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as an after thought. a pocket version that could automatically turn on and clean-sober me up, if it
'heard a siren' . so by the time I failed the
roadside dexterity testing, and had blood drawn,
my blood would hold no convict able, jail able evidence of 'drunken stupids' driving'! |
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Thanks everyone, that's certainly one aspect. Having said that, i think you're missing the extra bit, which is to store the ethanol for reuse. |
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Well, if you're asleep it could also take over the function of going to the bog, so you wouldn't need to get up in the night even if you'd had a skinfull. |
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I think it's easier to hook up w/ a med tech & just get the banana bag. |
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[UB], that's neat. I suppose you could also add some alcohol to the saline. How much difference does the first pass effect make? |
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An alcoholic beverage from blood? There's a biblical flavor to this. |
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There's a potential 'green' aspect to this: power vehicles with bio-ethanol from drunks. |
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Transsubstantiation? You could also have a car that runs on water this way. The water gets turned into wine miraculously, distilled, and the spirits used as fuel. That raises the question of conservation of energy in the conversion of water into wine. The mass presumably stays the same, but where does the energy come from? How much ethanol is there in the wine? Do you get the same volume of wine as water? |
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Transubstantiation of water into alcohol isn't necessary. The deuterium in a gallon of water, if fused in a reactor, would equal the energy content of 300 gallons of gasoline. Same thing for a gallon of blood...or gasoline for that matter. (The deuterium in a gallon of gasoline contains the energy equivalent of more than a thousand gallons of gasoline. Want to get twenty thousand miles to the gallon?) |
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Well we can't all have fusion reactors in our cars...or can we? |
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//There's a biblical flavor to this.//
//Transubstantiation of water into alcohol isn't necessary. The deuterium in a gallon of water, if fused in a reactor, would equal the energy content of 300 gallons of gasoline. // |
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\\turned into wine miraculously,\\
\\ Do you get the same volume of wine as water?
\\ first, please, at what tempurature does this
mirical operate at?
\\The mass presumably stays the same, but where
does the energy come from?\\ duh, think about
it! It's a MIRICAL. |
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Is there any plan to get the water in the grape
juice-by product, out? because i like grape juice
from concentrate. |
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And really if my ride were a miraculas car, I'd have
choosen the invisability option also or in place of
this one . |
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