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Sing Along 3D Printer
Play a song, the printer matches what it hears and plays along by varying the frequency of its motors while printing your piece. | |
Musical motors are a thing, musical 3D printers as well
but
not while they print. (as far as I know)
The annoying noise a 3d printer makes (including solo
music
frankly) could be masked if you could put on soothing
classical music that a controller would hear, analyze and
send
instructions
to your 3D printer so it would match the
notes in
the music simply by speeding up, stopping, slowing down
as
necessary. It would sing along while printing your piece.
The movement matching the music would be a bit of a
mechanical ballet as well. Relaxing to watch I'd think.
I'd think The Blue Danube would be a nice song to have
your
printer work to. Or rock and roll if you're in the mood.
This only while actually printing.
https://www.youtube...watch?v=Bdf9NHAuO0w
And automatically tracking and matching any music you play next to it. [doctorremulac3, May 04 2022]
Mozart on Printer
https://www.youtube...watch?v=N76RMIR1kCc
[Voice, May 04 2022]
Beat it on Floppotron
https://www.youtube...watch?v=6B522GbH3D8
[Voice, May 04 2022]
3D printing in metal.
https://www.youtube...watch?v=UdiwBiw5dyo
Yup, it's a thing. [doctorremulac3, May 05 2022]
What is tow
https://www.definit....net/definition/TOW
In the composites industry, a tow is an untwisted bundle of continuous filaments, and it refers to man-made fibres, particularly carbon fibres. [Voice, May 05 2022]
For [RayfordSteele]
https://techcrunch....s-instead-of-hours/
One article I found about multi-laser 3D printing. I've definitely read about it elsewhere. [neutrinos_shadow, May 05 2022]
[link]
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I don't know a lot about 3D printers, but I would expect the
movement speed it quite critical to the process. So if you're
changing the movement, you might have to also modulate the
filament feed and/or temperature to compensate. |
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Yea that's true, but all that stuff is connected. I've
got a couple of 3D printers for prototype stuff and
they're actually pretty simple. The temperature
doesn't have to change, the flow stops and starts
constantly as the nozzle moves from a printed area
across a non printed area. If it's moving faster, the
feed just increases. Slower the feed decreases. |
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Like I said, for there being so many musical
printers out there I'm surprised nobody's put the
extra effort into making them make music while
they actually print. While the prints would take
longer, they'd be much less annoying to have
running all day and all night. (which they do,
especially when you have lots of supports for a
particular piece) |
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WOW! Dang V! The Floppotron beat it is friggin'
amazing!!!!!!! Eddie's solo is perfect!!! There aren't
enough exclamation points!!!!!! |
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Forget about the 3D file inputs, and just enable
the printer to generate its own 3D structures in
response to the subtleties of a human voice. |
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Hmm. I like that. You could have voice recognition
and have the motors follow your melody. |
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You could have it basically sing along with you
while
making something. Sing about what you're making. |
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(singing) "I'm making, a plastic horsey, a little
plastic
horsey.." while it's making a little plastic horse. |
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That's both beautiful and extremely weird. But
mostly beautiful. |
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I quite like the noises my printer makes, good background
stuff, like an android coffee shop. The whole 3D printing
thing has become quite addictive since I learned
Fusion360 and I can just take things from my imagination
and make them real. I was promising myself a 32-bit board
upgrade, but I might miss the noise. I wouldn't miss the
smell of my resin printer however. |
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I can see another printer in my future, I might go DIY.
Temperature controlled enclosure, Peltier cooled steppers
for free heat, maybe even Peltier bed heating. I have a
couple of those black-magic solid-state humidity pumps
on order from the UK ostensibly to make a humidity-
controlled filament box, but why not go for the whole
enclosure? |
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They are pretty satisfying, my first was a kit, Prusa
that was a bunch of bags of nuts, bolts and parts.
Took 2 days to put the thing together. Then got an
Ender but just updated to a nice 12" bed Crealty. |
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And yea, it is kind of relaxing hearing it whirring
away. Little robot bringing stuff form concept to
physical existence. |
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But here's the one I really want, those new metal
printers. (linky) |
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//those new metal printers.// |
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I can see why you might like metals for high-temperature &
surface hardness, but, that's a lot of post-processing. I get
how it would sit with manufacturers already doing sintered
metal injection molding, great for prototyping etc. |
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Given that cars have part-plastic engines nowadays, I'm
interested in the carbon-fiber reinforced stuff, especially
the nylons. But, like I mentioned, upgrades required,
probably less hassle to go with a new printer. |
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A technique I've been messing with for structural parts is
designing in grooves along axes of stress, then adding in
glass/carbon fiber tow, tensioning it and glueing it all in
place by filling the groove with epoxy. A bit like how some
concrete structures are made. Carbon tow is ludicrously
strong stuff. |
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I'm still waiting for an actually self-replicating 3-D printer. Get on it, makers! |
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//actually self-replicating 3-D printer.// |
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This might not be possible. Depending on your definition of
course. But take an FDM printer, how can you make something
out of a material that, by design, operates above it's own
melting temperature? |
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//how can you make something out of a material that, by design, operates above it's own melting temperature?// |
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It can do so by allowing degradation of the nozzle, and then replacing the nozzle when overly degraded. As long as a nozzle can be replicated with less degradation than can be withstood this will work. Contactless deposition of material is also physically possible. |
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We allowed to process the 3D printer after it's
created by the parent 3D printer? Have the aggregate
of the metal and whatever's temporarily mixed with
it baked out and the metal fused and bonded for
instance? |
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Post-manufacture processing, such as aiming a microwave emitter at the child printer, is permissible. |
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Don't they have printers that operate based on laser
intersections or somesuch? |
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Like in a clear plastic solution or something? Sounds
familiar. |
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Making the printer "sing along" with music that you're
playing sounds difficult without add a lot of processing
power to the 3D printer, and has a lot of potential for
unexpected results since music is not too predictable. |
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I think a more realistic goal would be to select the song
and mix it into the G code using a modified slicer program.
I hear that Cura is open source... |
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Now maybe the quality of the music we can make using
just the printer is not so great, so you'd like to play the
real music and have the printer noises harmonize with the
notes and synchronize with the rhythm. In that case,
select your playlist based on how long the print is going to
take and generate the G-code, then start the soundtrack
at the same time as the printer. |
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Of course getting it to start together is tricky and the
timing will likely drift too much over the course of a multi-
hour print, so you'll probably also need some mechanism to
keep the printer and computer in sync. From what I've
seen, most people use the printer stand-alone: they just
print files from a USB stick or SD card. In that case, the
simplest hardware the could make this work with a range
of 3D printers might be to use the computer microphone
to listen to the printer and fudge the timing of the music
player to keep things together (not the simplest bit of
software to write). |
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Alternately, I hear that Cura can print directly to some
(many?) printers over USB. In that case, just modify Cura
to also play the soundtrack at the same time that is sends
the commands to the printer. That makes the
synchronization relatively simple. I guess with this setup
you could probably have near real-time control of the
music. If you don't feel like listening to the song being
played currently, tell Cura to skip to the next track and
have it reprocess. It can simply insert small delays into the
print process to keep it lined up with the rhythm of the
song. |
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Yes, if time lag becomes an issue the
program could guide the mechanical and audio
portions simultaneously so there wouldn't be any
sync
problems. |
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And like I said, there's no issue with adjusting
tempo, stopping and starting as the speed of the
nozzle is matched with the rate of flow. If the
nozzle has to slow down to lower a note, the flow
simply slows down at the same percentage. |
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I'll go out on a limb and say this will eventually be
done. I'll further say you'll be able to buy musical
G-code that matches the piece like playing "The
Lion Sleeps Tonight" while printing a sleeping lion. |
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This is a simple software programming challenge.
Think I might suggest it to some 3D printing social
site and see if somebody does it. |
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And here's a crazy thought, how about the music
guiding the printer so it makes a 3D rendition of
the music so you can actually see the music in
another dimension? You'd look at an abstract
sculpture and say "Oh, that's the Bach fugue in D
minor." |
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The journalist Jim Lehrer was working at a Dallas newspaper when it was announced that JFK had died. He said that it was so silent that even the teletype machines went silent. |
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This is how old I am, when I was a kid, as I think I've
mentioned before, my dad was a member
of the Home Brew Computer club that Steve Jobs and Steve
Wozniak were members of. He had an Altair computer with an
old fashioned machine gun sounding typwriter printer. I
programmed it in basic to draw pictures with the characters. I
think I also played around with it doing drum beats. |
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