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Design requirements:
- Online
- One page at a time
- Actual content does not matter as long as it includes tedious instructions
- No indication of progress (are you 1% done? or just one more page left?)
- Boring
If you stop at 1st page you probably have ADHD.
If you
get to the end you probably don't
If you stop somewhere in the middle you are borderline
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I like the idea, would the questionaire have instructions? Ooh!
Squirrel! [+] |
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The instructions read as follows:
"Welcome to the Self-evident ADHD Self-assessment Questionnaire. First, please read the entire entire entire entire entire entire entré. Entire entire entré entré, entré entire, et entré entire entire entré aussi, maintenant. Alons-y!" |
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If you seen nothing wrong with this, you likely did not read past 'First, please read'; you have ADHD. |
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*Note the clever way the correct spelling of 'questionnaire' was incorporated in this comment. 'Twas hard to resist the near-requisite "sp." |
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"Hello and thank you for watching the video
instructions for our ADHD test, please be sure to
like and subscribe for further tests, I'm
Doctorremulac3 and I'll be administering your test
today, it's fairly straightforward, you'll be given a
series of tests that you'll review as best you can.
Don't worry about spelling, punctuation or
grammar, simply do the best you can. At the end of
the test, you'll be graded on how advanced your
ADHD is, if you have for instance, a 20 percent
result, this is indicative of ADHD, you'll have a
higher chance of having ADHD, if however you
were to get 80 percent result this is indicative of
ADHD being less likely you'd have a much higher
probability of not having ADHD. ADHD tests are a
good way of gauging this and we're glad you came
to take the test today. Please be sure to let others
know about our service and if you're pleased with
the results, feel free to write a review on our web
page or even post links to our site on any social
media you or friends or family might frequent.
Your assistance in this manner helps ups get the
word out and let others know about ADHD, how to
test for ADHD and how to let others know how to
test for ADHD. A bit of legal disclaimer, the results
in no way are indicative of or suggesting any
course of treatment, either psychological or
medical, and we are in no way liable for any
misdiagnosis of your condition or resultant
physical, psychological or financial issues resulting
from any course of treatment you might encounter
after taking this test which is now done. You don't
have ADHD unless you skipped to the end to read
this sentence. In that case check what percentage
of this you read before skipping to the end." |
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My better half being something of a professional in this
area, would point out that a popular ADHD assessment form
is already a 13 page long torture test. |
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The idea doesn't really pick up on any of the subtleties of
ADHD, which is really a poorly named cluster of undefined
brain chemistry problems. For example, a fairly typical
ADHD response to the posted questionaire(sic) would be to
put a load of laundry on, and then very carefully complete
the whole thing, possibly while googling any tricky
sections*, before forgetting about the laundry and having to
re-wash it the next day. |
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*leaving the browser tab open for later reference that won't
happen |
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At fifty three... do I really want to know all of the labels I would have been saddled with had those labels been available back then? |
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I'm not so sure. I'm just 'me' now. |
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If you read to the end, you have OCD. |
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I skipped to the end of the idea. |
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I skipped the idea and just looked at the comments |
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A paper I read just this morning mentioned using
questionnaires that included "attention checks" -- questions
that only existed to see whether the test-takers were paying
attentions and could follow simple instructions, rather than
blindly reacting to the overall shape of the question.
Apparently this is just a thing people who design
questionnaires commonly do. |
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Below is a list of leisure activities. If you are
reading this, please choose the other box below and type
in I read the instructions. |
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[ ] Biking
[ ] Reading
[ ] Other: ______________ |
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A to me surprisingly large number of respondents _failed_
those attention tests; in one case, 34%. (The scores of the
people who failed didn't
otherwise diverge much from the average scores, so they
were not excluded.) |
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Reminds me of a dirty trick test they did in school where
they gave you a list of things to do like standing up and
spinning around, tapping your toes, basically a bunch of
embarrassing stuff. Some of the students just sat there
with smug little grins on their face. The rest of us
figured out why when we got to the last instruction which
was
"20: Now ignore all the previous instructions and just sit
there." |
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Supposedly the leasson was to read all the instructions
before doing what they say, but I took the lesson to be:
"Never follow instructions from
teachers." I applied it for the rest of my schoolastic career,
which ended at about the 7th grade. Quit school and began
starting businesses instead of playing bullshit school games.
Never looked back. |
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I give a lot of credit to that test. |
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When I took that test I differentiated between reading and processing. Also the teacher said "as fast as you can". So in the interest of speed I read, but did not process, the instructions. The results annoyed me tremendously. |
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This is what I would have put in "other": |
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"Below is a list of leisure activities. If you are reading this,
please choose the other box below and type in I read the
instructions. |
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[ ] Biking
[ ] Reading
[ ] Other: Dear creator of this test, although it can be
argued that a "list" should contain more than two items,
having something in the same format as the other items on
the list that is not in any way related to the previous items
disqualifies this from being a list of the specified items. For
instance, "Below is a list of pastries" is rendered to be a
false statement when the "list" consists of "1- Donut, 2-
Cupcake 3- Elephant". Justifying this false list by adding
"Read this list of pastries and then slap yourself in the
face." doesn't in any way take away from the fact that it is
a flawed list, and therefore part of a flawed set of
instructions. As the instructions are flawed, I will not follow
them. Neither will I succumb to trickery or deceit in any
other area of my education. |
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//I applied it for the rest of my schoolastic career,... |
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Having done ALL of the education, the trickery continues,
or at least it's a rigged game. The whole system needs a re-
think. I'm in lab space stacked to the ceiling with stuff
because floor area is so expensive. Why is floor area so
expensive? Because the university is in the middle of a city.
Why is research in the middle of a city when we could be in
a cheap warehouse with parking? The answer, I think, is
because that's where the information was kept, the library. |
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Universities are keepers of knowledge, and charge for
access to that. Teaching is largely just curated knowledge
access. Not entirely unlike the Church with pre-printing
press bibles. Only the jig is up. You can read journal articles
on the toilet flying sideways at 500mph on your way to
Denver, for some reason, Denver is often involved. |
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That last sentence is damn near poetry. |
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