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A politician oversteps his authority or otherwise behaves in an unstatesman-like manner, as determined by the secretary. This official government department sends someone to kill him.
The secretary of this office is an elected official. If the people don't like his choices as to whom he has assassinated,
they vote him out.
Now, just try and pretend there's something wrong with that!
Junta (a board game)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junta_(game)
'Minister of Internal Security' is the term you are searching for, I suspect, unfettered. [DrBob, Sep 10 2009]
Bureau of Sabotage
http://en.wikipedia.../Bureau_of_Sabotage
[normzone, Sep 10 2009]
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[unfettered], I presume your next argument in response to [21 Quest] is to let the mafia citizens hire henchmen to murder the secretary. I think Satan is accompanying you right now, hehehe! Hahahah! No offence to your preference for violence, fiend ;-) |
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Well I for one am just plain tired of folks from the States being the only ones from either North or South America to claim the moniker 'American'. |
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Henceforth I dub you all United Statetians.
Which will in due time become hyphenated to Unistats, but that is beyond my control so I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. |
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No, it's like a chinese wanting to be called asian. |
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Isn't this how The Whip operates? |
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Bubba, maybe he has a case of "the grass is greener?" I
know I always think it's better elsewhere. (oh yeah,
that's right, it is ;-) |
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It's not that I particularly want to be called American.
I just want the option back. |
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OK, just as long as we're all enjoying our jovially minded, cheerful international banter... |
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[2fries], instead of United Stateians, could we please be called Monistats? Now if only I could find a group of seven... |
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This idea is possibly pre-heated by Frank Herbert (link). |
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there's 8 of 7 if you must! |
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//And Bliss, don't be such a sellout. You're in, what,
Connecticut? The grass is gorgeous in New England,
and it's beautiful here in the Northwest, too.// |
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Perhaps say you...but it's even better in Ireland! |
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Collective consciousness of a state, country, continent, etc. can not be boiled down to one specific ideal such as comparative dissonance (jealousy). Any exposure to another country's patriotism will tell you: they are glad they're not United Statitians. Of course, they are jealous, too. |
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""Madness is the exception in individuals but the rule in groups." -- Nietzsche |
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My point is, 21, when you make the interplay of universals such as "America" and "Jealousy" so deliciously simple, it spurs annoyance in the wise. Please complicate things in the future, thanks. |
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It's sickening to hear that a non-Canadian North American believes the love affair he has with his country is objectively resolute. I know plenty of Americans that have left America. Because of its homogeneity, its cultural vacuity, its health problems, its self-serving, self-destructive powerlessness that is hidden thinly behind dollar cheeseburgers and behemoth cars, the slave-driving drug cartels seeping in at every corner, transparent and unstoppable corruption, and, most importantly, egghead deadbeat fast-talking slow-thinking numbskulls. Like some people I know. |
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//a non-Canadian North American //
A Mexican? |
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Considering that is where the majority of drugs comes from, and since drug use is so damn prevalent, sure. |
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// Can you work in "bitch-slappin', monkey wrenching"//
...cool fizzin' Pepsi! (to mis-quote an ad campaign from the 70's) |
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I dunno... Bitch slappin' is more indicative of Afghanistan, and more monkeys get wrenched out in Indonesia than America, probably. |
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Well... Sounds like we'd better make that 4 times... |
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[Bubba], I did know that but your comparison was wrong. |
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American meets an asian looking person on holliday and says: "what kind of knees are you?", "what do you mean'?", "well are you chinese or vietnamese or japanese?", "Oh, I see, I am taiwanese, but what kind of key are you?", "What do you mean?", "Well, are you a donkey or a Monkey or a Yankee?" |
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I wish you were a USian [Unabubba] |
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[21Quest] people do not hate the USA all that much to begin with, but when they are that pitifull to hate an entire people they hate it because the USA has fucked over so many people in the course of history. Not because you have more and bigger of everything because you just don't. It's a nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there. |
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Ps. If you forgot all about the idea and just anno for the heck of it and to vent your personal frustrations, does that mean you are badly of topic? Sorry. |
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Ya know, Bubba and I had this exact same
conversation when I had grown weary and
sickened by George W. I wanted to leave this
country forever and pretend like I had never been
born here. I was completely done. |
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If I had the money and a job waiting, I would have
left here long ago. I'm starting to get that nervous
feeling again. As are many. |
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Oh and Quest, I live in Hartford, remember? I hear
the sound of guns going off, and see drunks falling
out of bars on every corner here. Just no cute
dialect, or pretty green glens, and neato castles.
So there. |
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// As for the thousands of people who flock to the US each year//sp. "day" |
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Much national patriotism is inculcated in the name of political, economic or military expediency and, once inculcated, it takes a long time to dissipate. But cultural or philosophical differences exist between countries (and ares within countries, still) and, if the majority or latent gestalt tendencies of your country are in sync with your own assessment of what constitutes virtue, then it is natural to be proud of one's country. Not saying such pride is virtuous, though. In fact I would say that such pride is, of itself, not virtuous but, when coupled with other factors, such as the importance of the bunting and commemorative thimble industries, it can be. |
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//Why would you like me to be a USian, [zeno]? So you can hate me even more than you do at the moment?\\ That's right I would love to hate you. Hate leads to anger, anger leads to venting frustrations, venting frustrations leads to relief, relief is inner calm. You see? Racism, fascism, nationalism, it does work! |
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so a community can think! interesting. |
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not just a *mean* value then? |
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“You're a Canadian, [2fries]. Why in the name of Azazel would you want to call yourself "an American"? That's like a Chinese wanting to be called Vietnamese.” |
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“Well, Vietnam is south of China and the Chinese regard being called Vietnamese as a grave insult, [zeno]. But I guess you don't know that, huh?” |
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“It seems I was not meant to walk up the stairs, because a large, black man with a hand cannon, very shiny boots and lots of shiny badges....” |
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“Why would you like me to be a USian, [zeno]? So you can hate me even more than you do at the moment?” |
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“I'd like to have my own country, on a remote isand in the middle of nowhere and enough WMDs to keep every other fucker on the planet at a respectable distance.” |
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“At best, I think all nations are created paranoid and racist; it's just that some nations are more paranoid and racist than others.” |
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“Maybe the US is regarded as a "women's shelter" by many people who are looking to escape an even greater tyrrany?” |
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Unabubba, we Americans are proud to harbor the outcasts of other nations and those who flee tyranny. Cleanse your hear to bigotry, my friend. |
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And why have you not invited me to come live with
you again Bubba? I'd make a great nanny! (jokes, jokes
everywhere...) |
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I'm an Australian who used to live in the U.S and something that surprised me was the general attitude I got from a lot of Yanks. We'd be chatting along and I'd mention I was going back to Australia in a few months and they were just shocked. They could not comprehend that I would want to go home, considering I had finally made it to what they must believe is a utopia.
I believe there is a system of wholesale brainwashing in America that begins with birth and ends in death. It starts in school (I also went to school there) with the pledge allegiance to the flag bullshit (I almost got expelled for refusing to pledge allegiance to their flag) continues with the version of history taught and is finally cemented by the corporate media and Hollywood.
Considering Americans rarely travel and if they do, rarely to anywhere that different, they have no way to gauge whether what they have been told is in fact true.
It is the perfect system for oppressing the masses. They take pride in their prison and will die for the right to suffer there. |
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// I'd mention I was going back to Australia in a few months and they were just shocked//
That's probably because they thought you couldn't possibly go back to the place Hitler was born. |
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I nominate the Title to be rightly accused. Thus a + |
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Bubba, that's the first science mag I ever read... was about 11. Not understanding shit, I rejected science and skateboarded and played music until my first alien contact. Then all was clear. |
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-AbsintheWithoutLeave-
I hold you responsible for the coffee now coating my laptop screen! It wouldn't be so funny if it wasn't so possible!! |
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As I understood it, those of us in the united states elect our officials, and our officials nominate a Secretary of Murder to assasinate foreign officials which we do not approve of. Then we vote out elected officials that make bad decisions about this. |
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