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Isn't it annoying being one of those people who can barely carry a serious conversation, always having to say some random sarcastic comment whilst keeping a straight face, whilst the people around you just don't quite get you and think your'e a bit of a nut case, when really they just don't understand
sarcasm.
To help these less fortunate people understand your sarcasm, give them a sarcasometer. Kinda like headphones that pick up the tone + other characteristics in your voice to determine whether the comment is sarcatic. This would send a message to their brain, telling them "don't take that comment seriously, it's just sarcasm."
Baked.
http://www.sarcasmd...or.com/product.html "A sarcasm detector? Oh, that's a REAL useful invention." -Comic book guy, The Simpsons [mrthingy, Oct 17 2004]
Half baked
http://content.time...615_2029717,00.html The linked invention only works on product reviews, but it's halfway there. [goldbb, Jul 31 2014]
Okay, maybe not really, but I needed to post something...
http://cheezburger.com/5770862592 [normzone, Jul 31 2014]
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Damnit! I was being sincere; I really did give you a croissant, sorry if you thought I was being sarcastic, and deleted my anno. Happens to me a lot |
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This is a really great id - oops, sorry, gone off scale there. |
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^. ^^^^^^^^!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^,^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^... |
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<sincerity> I rarely have trouble verbally denoting sarcasm or parody, and I rarely find myself puzzled about the verbal emissions of others. But with written comments it's a different story. The need for a ^ or something like it has been proposed here many times before, but the consensus response in the past has been "learn to write more skillfully." I'm not sure I know many people who are such masters of the pen (/keyboard) that they don't occasionally miss the mark. |
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On the other hand, I wonder if the very nature of wit and how it works wouldn't be killed by something like this. I think the reason we laugh or smile in response to sarcasm or other forms of hyperbole is that ultimately, it is an act of charitable respect. The speaker is saying to his audience, "My respect for you is such that I'm confident you'll realize that no one would propose something like this in seriousness." So I think a written (or verbal) sarcasm tag might decrease or even eliminate the appreciation with which your audience might receive sarcasm, even if it increases the recognition. |
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Do you have a point or are you just being objective? |
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My point is that I think the idea would not achieve the intended result. |
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Yes! waugs, that's a critical part of what I was after, but couldn't put my finger on. The joy comes from the instant when your (the hearer's) horror or outrage flips instantly to "oh, he's not serious, and he's told me we're together in a way that complements both my intellect and my humanity." |
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Agree with [beaux]. Plus, if the person doesn't get that
you are being sarcastic, aren't they too dumb to care
about anyway? Stupid non-sarcasm-getting people, I hates
'em. |
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If you're being misunderstood, you're doing it wrong. |
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I actually had a working prototype of this one going this afternoon. As a test, I fed a few hundred halfbakery pages through it. It exploded. |
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I agree with [boso] (sorry if thats not how its pronounced [beauxeault] my mother is French). I deliver and enjoy receiving sarcasm when the intent is humor. The funniest lines take a second or two after delivery before realization. That is a learned talent and it is audience specific, therefore I dont see how this device can work. Sarcasm works on anyone, in just about any situation, but the delivery has to be catered accordingly. As for *indicating* sarcasm in text, which I think deters from sarcastic humor, and the (vocal) intent of this idea, thats thoroughly baked into
;-) Either way, its up to the author to make sarcasm work. |
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Then again, sometimes I say things that I know people wont get because I also think its funny when people look at me like Im nuts. |
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[Shz]: I think that would actually be pronounced "bozo," like the clown. |
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Just checked beauxeaults profile with self listed pronunciation of bozo. Ill use that one since beauxeault does. |
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And how shall we pronounce "Shz?" My mother's not Czech, so I wouldn't know. |
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Shz \ti-js\ - ti as in [E] attention js as in [F] jy suis, jy reste. |
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Please find a more appropriate category for this idea. How about "public: communication" or "product: translator"? Thanks! |
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It all makes sense now. I kept toying with 'boo-hoo' or 'bo-salt' or something, both of which I knew weren't right. |
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Sorry logan looks like you're idea sunk like the titanic, don't worry I'm sure youll eventually get the others to have a serious conversation with you. |
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<Sarcasometer explodes with a flurry of brightly coloured sparks> |
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Hey, there are many different forms of sarcasm, some that people WILL not master or even understand, but this machine would take the fun out of being sarcastic, lets face it, it takes a second or two to realise whats been said (or a week if your Mony, but only UnaScot knows what im talking about there) |
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And with sarcasm, if you know how to deliver you can make is seem SOOOOO real and people will second guess, with this machine you take away that ability to recognise it for yourself and you take away the best part about it, THE REACTIONS TO WHATS BEING SAID! |
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I've heard that the Secret Service is looking to buy software that can detect sarcasm on social media. |
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But what if I faked my sarcasm? |
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You're not good enough to fool anyone, so it wouldn't be a problem. |
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Would it be able to distinguish between sarcasm and irony ? |
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Well a simple irony detector would be a predictive
social discourse database that scans for "what it
doesn't expect" everything that it doesn't expect
is considered antithetical to acceptable social
discourse parameters. Acceptable social discourse
parameters are determined by sets of rules that
are generally interpreted to be whats appropriate.
The least suspected discourses are those that are
generally disproved of. The ironic event is
therefore least calculable out of all of the most
possible events provided for by the discursive
acceptability continuum. The discursive
acceptability continuum is an ironic continuum
that measures the meaninglessness of statements
and classifies them by the way they are wrong. |
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