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The technology's already there, but currently when you have robot hands doing things, their movement is ugly, abrupt, very stop and go and just not pleasant. This is not necessary, robotic hands would be a lot more popular to do various tasks if they moved like the hands in the link.
It really would
require no extra programming other than an algorithm to make this work, you'd program it the same way. You tell it to pick up the dish and put it in the dishwasher, okay, very easy, the only difference is it does it with panache, aplomb, style and grace.
Robots are going to do all our household work eventually, it's very easy to have them do it beautifully rather than looking like they're about to fall over or go haywire and kill you at any moment. Any sentient being is programmed to see abrupt movements as threatening, so let's knock that off and make robot hands soothing and calming to watch.
This is how robot hands should move.
https://www.youtube.../shorts/pbmscqRZ3Vo
No matter what they're doing. [doctorremulac3, Mar 17 2023]
The ability is already there, now make it look good.
https://www.youtube.../shorts/L2v3AynQ2FA
[doctorremulac3, Mar 17 2023]
Great, except it moves like a robot.
https://www.youtube...watch?v=-KxjVlaLBmk
Its movements are "robotic". Just a little more programming would make them pleasant to watch. [doctorremulac3, Mar 17 2023]
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[-] I'm not seeing an idea, more of a wibni. Also I think people would find robot hands moving in a human-like manner creepy. They would need a totally different way of attractive movement. And since human hands tend to move in highly efficient ways given their construction that's going to be hard to do and still have efficient robotic hands. |
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Controls and feedback are hard work to get to be smooth, because smooth fights with efficient and cheap. PID controllers and servos are typically how these things are built, and coding them is a well-worn branch of engineering classes. |
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Making robots more lifelike is the stuff of masters degrees and careers and not "simple algorithms." |
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Ray, this wouldn't need feedback, you'd have points A to B, for points A to B being a certain length and path you'd have standard in between movements. |
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And V, this would be simply adding poetic ballet style moves, they'd actually be very un-human. Humans don't move their hands as shown in the link. |
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So to be clear to Ray and V, this is a new idea of taking standard movements of a machine, hands in this case but could be anything, analyzing that space that needs to be traversed, find a standard algorithm, basically a series of moves that fit into that space and inserting them appropriately. |
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The very most simplified, simply for illustration would be, it goes to pick up a tea cup, it lifts the pinky. This again, is only for illustration, something more appropriate would be "Hand moving 12 inches to pick up tea cup, insert finger flitter and pinky wave." |
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Changing to [+/-] with clarification. |
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<anecdote>
I've (sort of) seen both sides of this idea at once. A side-by-side pair of robots, both applying plastic coating to wire dishwasher trays (preheated, dipped into aerated plastic powder, et viola!). One was quite old, & very clunky & "square" in it's movement. The other was very new, & moved like liquid as it picked, dipped, removed & hung the trays. Far superior control & programming.
Fascinating to watch the 2 of them.
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