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Maybe this just makes too much sense to be practical. Maybe it has been proposed before. Maybe the nations of the world would never let it happen. It just seems to me there are so many people in the world who need political asylum with no place to go. People risk their lives every day to flee Africa
to go to the EU; flee Afghanistan to go to Australia; and flee Cuba to find asylum in the U.S. Requiring someone to risk their life in a little boat crammed with hundreds of people is not how we should be treating our fellow man. Once they make it they spend months or years in a dentention center and sometimes get sent back anyways.
Why not raise some money to buy a large uninhabited island or piece of land somewhere and create a refugee friendly nation. Anyone who wants to come can do so.
Sure there will be issues with creating a government, keeping order, and making the nation economically viable. But if so many people worldwide need a place to go so they won't be tortured for their race or beliefs, then couldn't there be a way to make it happen?
Sealand
http://www.sealandgov.org/
[tcarson, Jun 26 2006]
Nansen Lecture from 1938
http://nobelprize.o...nansen-lecture.html
The cozy West seems to have forgotten this basic decency... [ConsulFlaminicus, Jun 27 2006]
[link]
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Baked. United States of America. |
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I wanted to say that, but we're not exactly an island, and it wasn't uninhabited when the first refugees arrived. |
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Conventry? But I agree with [david_scothern], that is what the USA is ment to be, even if it isn't a perfect match. |
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one, the U.S. isn't just letting anyone in
right now. stupid screwed up concepts
regarding checks and balances and
separation of church and state. |
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two, there isn't really anywhere left that
is uninhabited that's big enough for the
numbers of people you suggest. |
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three, the last time someone tried to
create a safe haven for refugees on land
that was inhabited, we got israel. while i
don't have anything against israel as a
country i don't think we want to do that
again. |
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i suggest a man-made raft that floats
out in international waters. it would
have to be fairly large, and have some
form of propulsion to avoid hurricanes,
but it would solve the idea of
uninhabited land. if it moved, it could
distance itself literally from countries
that seem on the verge of annexation,
and it would be an awesome feat of
engineering. |
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/man-made raft/
This was one of the many ideas in "Snow Crash" - some demagogue millionaire had a huge boat, whcih served as the nidus for a whole bunch of refugee rafts and boats moored together to form a floating "island". |
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[tcarson] I suppose then they'd all have the one-up on us if the planet pulls a 'Waterworld' on us if they did exist in some sort of large man-made raft. |
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I somewhat doubt that this would be viable, mainly because people are, well, people in the dominating, intolerant sense of the word and one group would try to gain supremity over the others. Then there would be refugees from the refugee state. |
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well then it negates the whole concept of
refugia [froglet]. maybe they need a
country that specializes in building these
rafts so that when a group becomes
refugees from refugia, then they can go
get another raft. |
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I think, not an island, but a free area in an economically an climatically friendly environment would do better. |
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As the development is very related with the communication and exchange with the people of the developed countries, maybe such open areas in the vicinities of developed countries would make some sense. |
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I forgot to ask how we are going to transport all these people to the new promised land. |
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1957 Chevy trucks with 55 gallon drums welded to the sides. My Cuban associates and I have the market cornered. |
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you know, this actually reminds me a bit of
Sealand, but on a larger scale. |
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[david_scothern], I disagree. Being a human being is not sufficient a condition to be able to come to live to the United States of America. |
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