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The bursting into flames model may cause problems if you subsequently query the debit. |
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I'm with [waugs] (again!!!) - this is simply poor account management. |
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This is the first time that I've ever heard someone whingeing because somebody else didn't take their money off of them immediately. <sigh> You can please some of the people... |
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One major downside that I see to this idea: if one isn't disciplined enough in their account to keep from overdrawing the account when there are outstanding checks, how likely would it be that the balance would be adjusted to reflect the now expired check? Of course this presumes that one is actually performing any sort of accounting. |
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Now hold on one cotton-pickin moment there. |
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When you write a cheque it is an authorisation for someone to transfer that amount of funds from your bank account at some indeterminate point in the future, not necessarily right now. It becomes your responsibility to ensure that the bank will honour any drawings that you have authorised by ensuring that you have sufficient funds in the account to meet all cheques you have written. Despite standard banking practice (in the UK at least) cheques do not have an expiry date (I'm somewhat of an expert!) |
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So complaining that the funds weren't withdrawn quickly enough is a non-argument. You wrote the cheque, you should effectively place those funds on standby to ensure the cheque is honoured. |
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I rest my case for poor account management, m'lud. |
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I find the best way to deal with this problem it is to never write checks. I don't write a check unless there is absolutly no other way to pay. |
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Don't blame others for not keeping enough money in your
account to cover the checks that you write. What sort of
check do youthink the cat sitter would invent to combat
dead beat check writers? Also, as I understand it there is
already a limit to how old a check can be and have the
bank still cash it. Six months I think? |
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It is in fact legal (apparently) to have an expiry date on a check in the US. I misplaced a rebate check from some consumer product I had bought, and it said "invalid if not deposited in 180 days". Sure enough, when I belatedly deposited it, it bounced. |
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The last tax refund checks I got from the U.S Government and my state government also had such endorsements on them. |
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So, their poor record keeping abilities notwithstanding, why not allow a person to do the same thing? |
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My current bank refuses to accept checks older than some limit (I forget exactly, but the checks in question were more than six months old; fortunately they were for small amounts, which is why I hadn't gotten around to depositing them in the first place). |
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Pocapena means 'little pity,' which is apparently what I get for screwing up my banking. It's also the name of bull who beat the odds and finished off a matador in 1922.
I've decided to write an expiry date on my next cheque and see what happens... I'll be sure to send a report. |
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Actually, 'little bull', I'm one of the minority who agrees with you. I wrote a check two years ago which was never cashed. And while it still showed that amount as paid out (I use Quicken to balance my accounts), it would have been so much nicer if I had know when those funds would have been otherwise available. |
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I agree too. After the proposed expiry time, it should be the responsibility of the payee to come back and get another cheque. This way, they are encouraged to pay it in within a reasonable time, but it's not the end of the world for them if they don't, and you are aware that they have gone past the date and need another. + |
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Cheques issued by the UK govt expire after 6 months but HM Paymaster General doesn't operate like a normal bank anyway so not sure if this would transfer to the real world. With them you write the cheque and send it to the payee, you also list all the cheques issued and pass this list to HMPG who debit your account as is the cheque had cleared. When a cheque expires, they credit the amount back to your account. They issue a list of all cheques cashed in the month with your statement to enable you to follow a cheque's fate. |
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Second that bliss. I don’t have to balance, it’s done for me. I simply look it up. And the longer it takes for someone to cash a check I’ve ‘written’, the more interest I accrue. |
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i dunno about in the uk--- but here in the us most checks have a "memo" section--- a good way 2 make sure your check is cashed quick is to write "cash by" and a date--- this way they have 2 cash it fast |
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Perhaps time-delayed ink that appears and says "VOID" after a certain number of days have passed? |
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(I've seen visitors tags in companies that do that, but the "VOID" appears after just a few hours. perhaps it could be prolonged and used on checkques.) |
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I want the ability to manage my account poorly. Keeping track of outstanding cheques is a tedious waste of my time. [+] |
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I say what wagster say. [+] My landlord, MY LANDLORD!! Often holds my checks and then deposits two at the same time. It has never been an issue, as I just transfer the funds from checking to savings, and the bank is SUPPOSED to cover it, but the bank probably makes a note that I overdrew my account. |
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I'd use money orders, but once he lost a check and was obviously too embarassed to mention it. Maybe he will do it again. |
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