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If you have seen any of Jackson Pollock's
paintings recently, they are starting to
look a little tired and badly in need of bit
of a make-over.
My idea is to revitalise them, by
animating
them in such way as to restore some of
their original vigor and energy.
This will be achieved through
the use of
liquid colour, hydraulics, pneumatics,
and
pulsating micro tubing.
Each painting will be faithfully copied
using lengths of transparent micro-
tubing
of various thicknesses and strengths.
Once
complete, the tubular version will be an
exact replica, except made out of a
tangle
of overlapping, inter-woven clear
capillaries.
These tubes are all connected to
pressurised reservoirs of individual
colours that match the originals. Once an
hour the "paintings" are switched on and
the assembled audience watches as the
colour races around the tubes, filling
every
tiny orifice and capillary in a perfectly
orchestrated symphony of motion.
Weaker
sections of the tubing will bulge out
slightly to match every nuance of the
originals.
When complete, the replica painting is
allowed to remain static for a while,
before
its colour is systematically purged by a
clear liquid, ready for the next infusion.
Now who's going to build it for me?
Jackson Pollock Painting example
http://www.telegrap.../06/bapollock06.jpg
This is the one I'd like done first please [xenzag, Dec 04 2006]
Another candidate for Tubism
http://www.abcgalle.../bruegel/jan15.html
I can just imagine the cherubs wiggling! [bungston, Dec 04 2006]
Pollock Painting Value (No. 5, 1948)
http://www.nytimes....tner=rssnyt&emc=rss
Make that 50 million 140 million !! a world record [xenzag, Dec 06 2006]
Pollock in action (still image)
http://images.googl...26rls%3Den%26sa%3DN
Impressive to watch as the painting evolves with additional colours built up in multiple layers. Genius at work. [xenzag, Dec 07 2006]
(?) Color cycling
http://jacksontechs...jmvw/projects/cycle
Slow to load. Please be patient. [jmvw, Dec 09 2006]
Pollock Fabtastic BRILL
http://jacksonpollock.org/
I just found this - YOU MUST TRY IT !!!!! [xenzag, Jan 24 2007]
[link]
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There is no need to limit this technique to Pollock. Two dimension renderings are so past millenium. All of this ilk that have any interest value left in them should be au courantified using your pulsating tubes. |
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//Shall we discuss method of payment/
/ once I see the colour of your tubing
you can see the colour of my money. |
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The art looks like a big ol' scribble to me. |
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As for the idea, well, at least it would bring some enjoyment for me on a technical level. |
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that "big ol' scribble" is worth in excess of
50 million dollars |
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While I did beat everyone to the obvious-first-bad-pun post, I think this idea is pretty cool. [+] |
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Pollock did not do "childish scribbles".
//Is this art?// It's a halfbaked idea, as
intended. |
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bigsleep, I dont recal xenzag claiming this is HIS/HER work of art. If I am not mistaken the title suggests bringing some tired art to life. I now retract my bone and place my bun. I really had to think about this for some time and I rather like the idea of art that is alive. |
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I also picked the Pollocks because of his
original dribble technique - videos of
which are very impressive to watch. see
link for image. |
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//I think you give the man way too
much credit// |
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Your work does not get to worth over
100 million per painting for no good
reason. If you don't know too much
about him, you could do worse than
view the film staring Ed Harris, looking
remarkably like Jackson Pollock. |
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I didn't put him on a pedestal, and if
you look at his history you will see how
much respect he gained from his peers.
Jackson Pollock changed the way people
paint with his "action paintings" for
ever. He worked furiously and with total
dedication, and he paid the ultimate
price for his lifestyle. |
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I'm resting this up now as I don't really
want to have to defend the established
merits of a fine innovator in the art
world. It's only supposed to be a half-
baked idea after all. |
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//Pollock did not do "childish scribbles". // Yes he did. I unknowingly produced a few Pollock forgeries at the age of seven. His work was a demonstration of how art doesn't have to be complex or require great artifice to produce if it is driven by original thought. It was, nonetheless, haphazardly spattered paint, no more, no less.
//Your work does not get to worth over 100 million per painting for no good reason.//
No, it reaches this value because it is popular, well-known and in restricted supply.
[+] |
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//It was, nonetheless, haphazardly
spattered paint...// no it isn't - there is
nothing haphazard about Pollock's
paintings. Couldn't let this go
unchallenged. |
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A quote from Pollock himself [Source Time Magazine 1956, courtesy of Wikipedia]:
"When I am in my painting, I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It is only after a sort of 'get acquainted' period that I see what I have been about. I have no fear of making changes, destroying the image, etc., because the painting has a life of its own."
My interpretation of the above quote is that his technique was to start painting in a random, unconscious manner, pausing only part-way through a work to impose a plan for its completion. Thus, use of the word 'haphazard' [adj. characterized by lack of order or planning, by irregularity, or by randomness; determined by or dependent on chance; aimless., Source dictionary.com] is entirely justified. |
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I disagree (but then I would) Pollock
would never have said "my paintings are
done in a haphazard manner". |
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The other descriptions are accurate, but
the word haphazard implies casual and
careless. |
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Anyway - I'm definitely leaving this
alone now. Besides, I have another
version of the same idea in the oven.
(Hidden camera zooms in on dozens of
fish being busily filleted ready to
descend on sight of the dreaded
"Pollock" word.) |
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I agree, Pollock would never have said "My paintings are done in a haphazard manner". This supposition does not, however, constitute a refutation of the contention that haphazard painting was a part of his work.
There were good reasons why he would never had made such an admission. For one, the value of his work might have decreased significantly upon recognition that he did not follow a plan so much as he splattered paint and then looked for inspiration within randomness to complete a piece.
Re-read the quote:
"When I am in my painting, I'm not aware of what I'm doing."
This comes close to the definition of casual/careless.
You seem to be having difficulty reconciling the concept of a casual/pseudo-random approach with the creation of fine art. If Pollock proved anything, it was that these two things can go together. |
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Leave Pollock out of it. It's a good idea for art. |
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Educational references stimulate bunning. Plus, check out the controversy! |
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This idea reminds me of descriptions I've read of experiences with LSD, about patterned surfaces appearing to start breathing. Perhaps the idea could more easily be realized or prototyped in the form of computer art. |
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I set up two images with palette animation. Please see link. It requires Java and will take a minute to load. I like the first one best. Is this somewhat similar to what you had in mind? |
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I appreciate your efforts [jmvw], but the
capillary tubes would fill with colour in
the manner of a transparent hose. The
hydraulics, and valve control sequences
would be most complex. When empty
of colour the whole thing would look
like a pile of spaghetti of varying
thicknesses. |
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[bigsleep] //Why does this idea have
Pollock in the title ?// |
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The main reason why I selected Pollock
was to imitate the trails of his travelling
drip technique. The second reason, as I
explained in the body of the idea, is
because some of the originals are
starting to look like greying shrouds. As
for controversy, I thought this was just
a bit of fun.... Bakery never ceases to
surprise and delight. |
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update: removed second image, added image of empty tubes. |
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[jmvw] -most excellent work - you can
now start on the life sized version with
real tubing. |
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Certainly. If you could just submit a small upfront retainer I will get started immediately. I think 400 kilodollar will cover the first five years, but if I have any expenses I will be sure to let you know. |
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So, what you want is boiling, bubbling, juke-box-illumination Pollock paintings? I can see the headlines: "POLLOCK EXHIBIT PUTS THOUSANDS IN HYPNOTIC COMAS AND THOUSANDS MORE IN EPILEPTIC FITS" |
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You read double-broadsheets, I see. |
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//This idea reminds me of descriptions I've read of experiences with LSD, about patterned surfaces appearing to start breathing.// |
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Heh. Yes, I've, er, "read" about those experiences too, [jmvw]. |
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you MUST TRY the last link - you will
thank me afterwards! |
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ps clicking mouse changes the colour. |
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jackson pollack, sundae decorator |
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You could do this microfluidically,
although you'd need a multi-layer device.
Basically, series of channels running
through a glass wafer. The end result
could have features down to a few microns
- MiniPollocks. |
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That's great news. Let me know when
you've got it working, and I'll be over to
check it against which of the original
ones it was based. |
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And for a minute I thought this would be full of derogatory statements regarding people of Polish descent... |
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////You could do this// - using
centipede intestines perhaps? |
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Where's [JMVW]''s piccies? I'm just getting a login screen. |
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//Using centipede intestines perhaps?//
That would be silly. No, you could do this
in glass or PDMS (polymer). The latter
would be easier to make. Also, with PDMS
it's possible to put valves into the system,
so you could control the flow of colour to
different parts of the image in sequence. |
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In fact.....you could probably make a
passable display technology based on
three different coloured pigments and a
multilayer, valve-controlled PDMS
microfluidic device. The display would be
pneumatically operated. |
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I initially read this as Pulsating Hydro/Pneumatic Bollocks... |
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