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What a clever halfbaker you are! |
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There
should be atheists' and theists divisions', Republican
and Democrat divisions, etc. Each would be
required to say nice things about the other. |
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The idea needs work, though. By what criteria
would points be awarded? |
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Well, [mouseposture], to emlarge slightly on your delightful contirbution, the criteria might be eloqeunce or niceness. Or points could be awirded for making a pugnation that invites a reply (like a rally in tennis), or convarsely for making a pugnation that leaves your interlocuter speechless with gratetude. |
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hmmm, so a contest where the best liar is dubbed most couthful? |
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(+) for convarsely awirded. |
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This is the BBC Parliament Channel, is it not ? |
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Will there be a special points system for underhanded
comments that sound really nice, but you don't realize
you've been insulted until you're on the way home from the
match? 'Cause if so, Im'a bring my Mom... |
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As opposed to "Couth Person Off the Year"?
(I'm told by my Scottish out-laws that "couthy" (sp?) is a legitimate complement) |
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Perhaps they may be "kempt" also. |
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//This is the BBC Parliament Channel, is it not ?//
No, it's the halfbakery. Home of flawed ideas, made
to sound plausible by skillfull argument. |
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Yes, “couthy” would usually translate as “homely” I think, with a sense of freindly, simple, warm, old-fashuned, welcuming, discreeet, wearing a pinny and baking bannocks on a griddle at an open fire. |
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// Home of flawed ideas, made to sound plausible by skillfull argument // |
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We are compelled to reiterate: This is the BBC Parliament Channel, is it not ? |
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//by skillfull [sic] argument //
Having viewed the Murdoch "interrogation" (slap around the head witha damp face flannel), I think I'd have to say "no". |
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would a skilled competitor be "pugnatious"? Or "pugny"? |
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OGY POLICE LINE --- DO NOT CROSS --- ETYMOLOGY POLICE LINE --- DO NOT CROSS --- ETYMOLOGY POLICE LINE --- DO NOT CROSS --- ETYMOLOGY POLICE LINE --- DO NOT CROSS --- ETYMOL |
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Sorry, Mr. [rm]; the "im" part of "impugn" does not come from a negatory "in" (like the "in-" of "invisible", derived from a Proto-Indo-European vocalic "n", compare "un-" in Germanic languages, "a-" in Greek - yes, really, "a-", it's counterintuitive), but from the preposition "in" meaning, umm, "in" or, in cases like this, "into"... as in "Gahhhn, get into 'im, ya big girl's blouse!" |
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So, whereas to impugn you is to "fight into" you, to *pugn you is still to fight you, and not to be nice to you. |
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*the asterisk means "this word is unattested". |
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...hence "pugnacious" and, probably "pugilist" as well |
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//Sorry, Mr. [rm]; the "im" part of "impugn" does not come from a negatory "in" (like the "in-" of "invisible", derived from a Proto-Indo-European vocalic "n", compare "un-" in Germanic languages ...// |
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Rediculous.
You'll be telling me my hoover doesn't hoov next. |
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Depends, is your Hoover flammable or inflammable? |
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21, by pedantic tendencies, do you mean you like feet? Not that there's anything wrong with that. |
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// So, whereas to impugn you is to "fight into" you, to *pugn you is still to fight you, and not to be nice to you. // |
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I'd have to say the jury is still out on that one, as in reality, the actual source of words is open to debate, ie we can't go back and ask them exactly what they meant. For example, understand...surely the opposite should be overstand? |
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My god, or have I just invented exopugning? Probably someone from Tsukuba University working on it as we speak. |
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Let's all quickly change it to “punging” then. |
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//Let's all quickly change it to “punging” then.// |
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how about 'kempt', or is that one already take? I'm feeling mildly pugned myself... |
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//I'd have to say the jury is still out on that one// |
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Mmmmno. Nice try. Pugnare and impugnare are both very well-attested classical Latin words. Ovid, Cicero, Livy and Caesar used both of them. If the poet, the lawyer, the historian and the too-clever-by-half celebrity- general-cum-statesman used the words in the same way then... that's probably what they meant. |
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"Don't get into a hole. But, if you *do* get into a hole... stop digging." - Dennis Healey |
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"You've improved so much since that last time I saw you." |
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Sorry, I was reading something on my ee-pad |
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//"Don't get into a hole. But, if you *do* get into a hole... stop digging." - Dennis Healey// |
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not verbatim but "the English political system is a farce" "Yes, but we're English, we enjoy farces" from Quicksilver. |
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Damn....so now I have to resurrect that working time machine I built solely in order to post the 'printing in wood' idea before anyone else on HB, in order to go baffle some Romans. |
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Unkempt means uncombed; kempt and unkempt are opposites. Kempt would mean almost exactly the same as well-groomed. |
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[pertinax] Julius Caesar spoke English? But in that
case
why did he write the damn' _Gallic Wars_ in Latin?
To
embitter the students' lives with hard
labour? |
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Damn, so kempt is already taken. I'm still working on overstand, with my co-worker we agreed that it means for the things you know only too well, like it's a long way to the next payday and stuff like that. |
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And, iron, steel, brass. You can have brassy, steely and they bear some resemblance to their original meaning, but... |
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irony, adj.
"Consisting of iron; of the nature of iron; resembling
iron in some quality, as hardness, taste, or colour;
abounding in or containing iron." |
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I'll just nip out and shoot myself. |
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<sound of gunshot....then sound of myself saying "bugger" as shot misses and bird falls from the sky> |
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But soft! What light from yonder window breaks?
'tis the east and not_morrison_rm is the sun! |
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Yes, there are two ironies, and their antonyms, Corbett and Barker. |
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//from yonder window breaks// |
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the only reason it's broken is my lousy shooting. |
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Well, we're all glad you missed. |
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right, I've decided to stick with exopugning, as my last stand |
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No, he only thinks it's psychosomatic. Give him some stronger placebos, and he'll soon feel better, or maybe just start to believe he feels better. Either will do. |
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// Julius Caesar spoke English? // |
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Of course. Every great figure in history spoke English. Even God speaks English. You can tell, because the Bible is written in English. |
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// To embitter the students' lives with hard labour? // |
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No, to Divide Gaul into Three Parts; the part that smells of bad drains, the part that smells of rotting cheese, and the part where it's immediately obvious that the concepts of "soap" and "bathing" have yet to penetrate.
Unfortunately these "parts" are philosophical, and - to the confusion of the civilized races of your planet - exist in physical congruency. |
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Thanks, I feel better. You are a Borg and a gentleman, sir. (I just figured I'd get into the spirit of the post, since we're having so much fun impugning each other elsewhere.) |
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