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Fortunately hoodies have started to attract bans in
certain cities here. About time, too. |
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Really? Municipal or informal? |
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Municipal. Police are pretty keen to enforce them, it
seems. The idea is to cut down on armed robbery and
property crime. |
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That's the thinking behind the bans here. That and the
fact it doesn't ever get cold enough for a sweater, let
alone a hood. |
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Hoodies constitute approximately 35% of my upper-body
wardrobe, so I'm glad there's no such ban in my area.
They're a perfect middle layer for winter, and the front
pocket keeps my 1911 warm and accessible. |
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I already have blue-mirrored safety glasses, so I won't be
needing a convertible hood-visor to complete my 21st-
Century Unibomber look. |
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He has a hole in the bottom of the pocket. |
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M1911-A4 .45 caliber semi-automatic handgun. I usually
take one with me when I go out to confront possible deer
poachers on my land. Having it tucked into the front
pocket of my hoodie is a non-threatening way to tell
armed trespassers "Yes, I have a gun as well, so let's not be
silly about this." |
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21 alterother, you're wrong, that's not what a 1911 is.
UnaBubba knows, "hole in the bottom of the
pocket." |
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// A hoodie, as a middle layer, is no different than a
pullover or unhooded zippered sweater. // |
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It's nice to have the hood keeping the back of my neck
warm, and it's also a good place to stash a frag grenade or
a handful of quick lyme. |
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// You can get nonhooded sweaters with large pockets. // |
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We buy most of my shirts at the local grocery store during
the off-season. They're cheap, durable, and they have the
name of my town printed on them, so people know where
to take me when they find me passed out on the roof of
their garage, but the selection is limited to t-shirts and
hoodies. |
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A burka makes a better top layer. I wear mine over a
hoodie during wet blizzards; the two hoods nestle to
provide both warmth and wind protection. |
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I have a very complex winter garment selection system. |
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So do I. I wear long sleeved shirts in winter. It's hot all
year 'round here. |
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leather hats, hoodies... my goodness. I would be
embarrassed to wear either one of those. If you want
to stay
warm, wear a heated jacket. My jacket also charges
my cell
phone. I'd like to see your "hole in the pocket"
hooded jacket
pull that off! As a plus, I don't look like a criminal. |
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I only walk for an hour at a time so my coat's charge
lasts for 6 days. as for my grammar, I don't care sorry.
Also the coat has been modified (via a simple
aftermarket y adapter) and can carry as much power
as I dare to lift. |
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I'm sure you look great in your leather pimp outfit but
I seriously can't picture it with out laughing. This only
proves that I am the retard. I picture you with a
feather in your leather hat. Either way, thanks for
the image; I feel better about my self now. |
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You could improve on that by learning to write and spell,
[Brian]. |
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The HB is one of the few places on the internet where
language is still important. I think that's because it's
such a text-oriented site. |
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OK but I do get to blame some of that on my spell
correct. wait... I don't have spell correct but if I did I
would be really pissed at it right now. Also sorry that
I don't care |
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Time to start caring, my friend, if you want this lot to
treat you with any sort of respect. |
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The only user who routinely gets away with bad
punctuation is [po]. |
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I love the smell of irony in the morning. |
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Only dumb people need good grammar to make
themselves sound smart. Have you seen a doctors
prescription? It is illegible. A lot like mine |
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That's right, keep digging that hole. A steady stream of
false bravado and derision will eventually bring us all
around to
your point of view. |
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And my mother is a doctor. What exactly are you saying
about my mother, now? |
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No, [Brian], clever people use correct grammar. Poor
grammar usage is like painting a target on yourself, with
DUMBASS written across the 10 ring. |
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There's a reason civilised societies provide schools and
teachers and textbooks and universities, despite the
supposed indifference of the great unwashed. |
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We're trying to help you. |
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What's even more interesting is the length of time
you spend squabbling with me. I know I'm a bored ass
loser, but your right here next to me each and every
day. Maybe you need a hobby. |
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I have a hobby. It's called [Brian The Painter]. |
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To tell you the truth, I have the HB open on one of my
screens while I work. I hate focussing on one thing at a
time. |
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Maybe [Brian] is actually a ghost account created so that
[UB] could have asenine schizophrenic arguments with
himself in a subtle yet poignant statement on the
degredation of social interaction in the Internet age. |
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unabubba, i was talkin' to alltheother. also I wanna c
ur ties |
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// i was talkin' to alltheother // |
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if yer talkin' to me, please do so coherently, and do it
quickly. Half the time I have no idea what the feck you're
on about, and my rapidly waning interest in anything you
have to say makes it likely that I'll just start skipping your
annotations altogether. So get to the point, if you have
one. |
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you can skip my annotations |
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Personally, I feel that adult men over 35 who care a about being stylish is kind of odd. |
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I can see dressing as expected for a job. |
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I can see avoiding looking like some stereotypical criminal or gang member. |
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Where I live we have cold dry weather much of the year. A hoodie feels good on my bald head, sometimes. |
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Silly idea though. Fashion. [-] |
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You don't understand [K101], this is -- (and all of my
ideas
are) --
not so much actual ideas per se as they are a
platform for
girlfriendless nerd fights, and thus while often
mistaken for
miserable failure, are, as you can see, actually quite
successful. |
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I applaud [Brian the Painter] for disregarding the criticisms of his linguistic mannerisms. Fry has it right (link), people should speak and write as they wish. |
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As regards the idea, I enjoy hooded sweaterss, can't imagine why they would be considered threatening - one wonders what are the laws regarding bags over the head with eyeholes cut out. I wouldn't use this feature however, it would be suffocatingly close to the face, I think. |
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// can't imagine why they would be considered
threatening // |
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Because they conceal the features from all angles save
straight forward, because the big front pocket can (sort of)
conceal a sizable weapon and the hand holding it, and
because hooded figures are classically seen as menacing.
Also because a lot of thugs and wannabe thugs seem to like
wearing them, probably for the reasons listed above. |
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As can a hat, or a scarf, or a blanket, or a trash bag, or any number of other things. Or a burkha. It's silly to think the clothing item is a threat. It's like saying guns are a problem, not the people who use them. |
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It seems you're being deliberately obtuse in this instance,
[tatters]. |
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I've bunned this for the annos. I'm neutral about the idea itself. |
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What [nineteenthly] said, sort of, sans the bun. |
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This idea could also help the theives who get caught on camera (usually wearing hoodies down over their face), as it would reflect back the camera! Of course, I think wearing a Nixon mask would work just as well. |
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[+] on Jesus's anno and for the idea generally. |
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I can remember a time when it was considered lame and very much "not the done thing" to wear a hoodie hood up, and i wouldn't do it myself on the whole because i think it looks really naff. |
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Makes you look like a teenage drug dealer. |
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Quickly balding head.
Canadian winters harsh.
Hoodies good for work. |
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//Have you seen a doctors prescription?// |
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//Bandanas, on the other hand, typically ARE
associated with gangs and ARE banned from being
worn on the head or over the face in many public
places.// |
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You're kidding! I mean, setting aside the fact that
I feel I have the right to conceal my face should I
so choose, what's the thinking behind banning the
wearing of a bandana on the head? More sensible,
shirley, to ban wide-brimmed hats and beards*. |
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(*Wide brimmed beards are particularly offensive) |
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Ban hoodies, mirrored and not. And ban high school track
and cross-country teams at the same time -- those
despicable lowlifes. |
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[-] as this idea displays prejudice against monks and Jedi knights. |
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// if you want this lot to treat you with any sort of respect // ... squeal like a pig ... <link> |
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// What exactly are you saying about my mother, now? // |
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<Obligatory Blade Runner reference> |
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Quality. But if we may offer a little advice, the .455 Webley Mk. IV has much to offer in the "Please do not annoy me, for Bad Things will happen to you" department. |
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Yes, you only get the six shots. Yes, you have to fire it single action or the trigger pull is ridiculously, unfeasibly heavy. Yes, it's the origin of the phrase "target will fall if hit". |
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Ban suits and ties, worn by the true oppressors of the People! |
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Ban stiletto-heeled shoes, worn by the true oppressors of Men ! |
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Ban ban banners. (Why do I feel like I am echoing you
today for some reason?) |
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I'm taking that as a rhetorical question. |
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Why doesn't banish sound like danish? Shouldn't banish have two n's? Did e get Bane-ish and then e left? |
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//Why doesn't banish sound like danish?// |
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For the same reason that Danish doesn't sound like
Spanish. |
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/Hoodies constitute approximately 35% of my upper-body wardrobe/ |
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I am wondering about the other 65% of your upper body. I imagine the area is question must be your midriff as there is not much north of the hood. Maybe you sport some sort of fringed sash? Cummerbund? |
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I said wardrobe, not coverage. The other 65% is t-shirts,
most of them also purchased at the grocery store and
bearing the name of my town, just in case I forget where
I'm from (which actually happened after I hit the deer). |
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//Shouldn't banish have two n's? Did e get Bane-
ish and then e left?// |
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No, it used to be 'bain', meaning a known
troublemaker, in mediaeval Northern England. To
'bainish' someone meant to declare them to be a
hoodlum and general ne'er-do-well, of whom
people should be wary. It was quite common to
send such people to an outlying part of the village
where an eye could be kept on them, so
eventually 'to bainish' meant to send away. |
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'Bain' would have been pronounced to rhyme with
'pain', and 'bainish' would have been pronounced
to rhyme with 'Danish', and inevitably became
corrupted to 'banish' (still pronounced to rhyme
with 'Danish'). |
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As with a great many English words, the spelling
became fixed shortly after printing came into
existence. Thereafter, the pronunciation changed
to a short 'a' (to rhyme with Spanish), but the
spelling stayed the same. |
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That is so cool... if you aren't having me on that is. Words, and how they change fascinate me.
'Bainish' makes more sense. |
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"baine" is Auld Scottish for a crude gate built into a fence (or a removable bit of fence in a pasture or field), so "ban" or "banish" would be a rather hearty version of being tossed out the back door. |
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hmmm according to the etymological dictionary 'bain' has been calimed as a strictly French term meaning bath.
So it's official, everything 'was' invented by somebody French. |
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I applaud [Brian the Painter] for disregarding the
criticisms of his linguistic mannerisms.
Thanks [tatterdemalion]! |
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//Fry has it right (link), people should speak and
write as they wish.// |
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I disagree utterly with Fry on that one, and it is
quite noticeable that he writes very well using
correct grammar and spelling. |
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The point about writing is that you should notice
the meaning, not the language. In that respect, it
is like a good sound system: if it's perfect, you
hear the music instead of the sound system. |
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Grammar and spelling are, indeed, arbitrary.
However, by following the conventions you make
your writing transparent. If you use
unconventional (incorrect) grammar or spelling, it
is noticed by the majority of readers, who are
then distracted from what you wanted to say. A
grammatical or spelling error is like a scratch on an
LP. |
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Of course grammar and spelling evolve over time,
as they must; but filling your writing with random
mutations is not evolution. |
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So, why would you use poor spelling or incorrect
grammar? There are several possible reasons: |
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(1) You don't know English very well. That's fine,
but if you write a lot and want to be read a lot,
then you should take the trouble to learn, just as
a musician will learn the technicalities of their
instrument. |
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(2) You know English quite well, but not well
enough to write effortlessly. Comments as above. |
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(3) You want to write with unconventional
grammar or spelling, to convey a particular style
of speaking/ writing (for example, when writing
dialogue for a character with a foreign accent).
This is very difficult to do well, and few people
can do so. In most writers' hands, this becomes
heavy-handed and tedious after a few pages.
Also, you have to know correct grammar and
spelling very well in order to do this. |
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(4) You don't like conventions and/or want people
to see your brilliance in spite of poor writing,
thereby affirming your brilliance. That's just
selfish and annoying, like, innit? |
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(5) You wish to distinguish yourself from the
boring masses, by affecting a strange writing style
such as non-capitalization or creative spellings.
Again, this tends to be annoying. Better to
distinguish yourself by what you write than how
you write it. |
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I can't think of any other reasons to write badly. |
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Anyone who has read anything written by a lawyer will know that perfect spelling and grammar are insufficient to create writing satisfying the MB test of quality. Which is not to knock your point, Max - I agree with the general thrust. |
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Words are tools: to be used on the brains of readers. In this analogy, Muriel Spark is the brain surgeon, and Thomas Pynchon is the dude slipping you the brown acid. Both achieve their aims but their aims are different. The habitual user of sloppy grammar may have different aims from the pedant. |
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Personally I like to post in one of the classic Halfbakery Traditional styles. |
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My annotations (unrelated to post queries), on the other hand, is just me talkin' you up. Feel free to be offended. |
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