h a l f b a k e r yYeah, I wish it made more sense too.
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Current issue with nursing homes is the lack of purpose for
elders clients.
Current issue with kinder gardens is that workers are
overworked, and society doesn't seem to care about
investing in education in general.
Why not connect both together?
Have a nursing home next to a kindergarten,
it will help
with workers workload, and give a sense a purpose for the
nursing home elders. In addition, there is research that
points to the role of elders in pre-modern society
transferring knowledge to younger generations. (Which is
incidentally why the stolen generation event in Australia
had such a detrimental effect on indigenous culture. )
However changing existing infrastructure is hard to do.
For the interim, create a dedicated fibre optic or
microwave link between two buildings, where a room size
video conferencing system can be done. (But every month
or so, you should let the nursing home elders visit
kindergarten).
Kindergarden inside Nursing Home
http://archive.wire...he-retirement-home/
Somewhat baked, but requires building new buildings. [mofosyne, Aug 04 2014]
The High School approach
Geriatric_20High
[RayfordSteele, Aug 04 2014]
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[+] except for the teleconferencing bit. From
what I've seen, kindergartners aren't really into
having conversations with adults. They want to
do things. I think a teleconference might hold
their attention for about 15 seconds. |
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I wonder if this might actually work better with
grade-schoolers between say 2nd and 5th grade. I
assume they are focusing on kindergarten because
they can experiment on that without worrying
about interfering with the curriculum
requirements. |
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When did old people become "elders"? Are these
old people living in some sort of Lord of the Rings
Retirement Home? "Ah, Frodo my son, we must
consult the Elders, for their wisdom will..." No!
These people are fucking "old". They are, in
short, "old people". Old is what they are. |
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As for the idea. Having had a mother at an old
people's home, frankly I can't see this working out
well. I'm not getting how a toddler will benefit
from being asked to explain, at 3 minute intervals,
where this place is and what's going on. And,
when kids get old enough to get worried, this
kindergarten/old-people's home model is just
going to scare the shit out of them. Being made
to realize, at the age of five, that your final
destination involves a high degree of immobility;
a complete loss of memory and hearing; and a
tendency to regress on the whole toilet training
issue is not how you want to embark on life. |
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Might be a valuable lesson. Life is short and you end up just like you started, toothless, stupid and sitting in your own excrement. |
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Possibly a two tier thing then [Max), not all pensioners are like that, some are quite spry. |
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If you just exclude the mad old biddies & those in hospices I could see this working (after a fashion). |
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Would have to agree with [scad] about the teleconferencing though. |
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//not all pensioners are like that, some are quite spry// - those are often the ones not in nursing homes though. |
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I bunned this, but only on the basis that it's all face to face, that would work best, and be useful for society....most nursing homes see to resemble Dachau and this might correct that... |
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//Life is short and you end up just like you started, toothless, stupid and sitting in your own excrement. |
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Would that be better than sitting in someone else's excrement? Just asking. |
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I'd add that to my little Hallmark sentiment. |
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"Life is short and you end up just like you started,
toothless, stupid and sitting in your own excrement,
but at least it's yours. (as far as you know)" |
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//those are often the ones not in nursing homes// |
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But they might be in a retirement home, so maybe a slight adjustment to the idea? |
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Oldsters with inclination and competence do work in kindergartens / day cares. This crew is also generally able to live independently. |
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The idea of productive work is a good one, though. One assumes that the need for supervised living precludes the ability to be productive. I think a large garden / farm might be better. Less time pressure. More margin for error. Greater variety of tasks to be done. |
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I can't help but bun this for the content, and the well
thought out and postive vibe of an idea. + Thanks for
making my day. |
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+ ...and I think it could actually work! |
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The child-care places around here already tend to
hire pretty old folks (70+) to do most of the work.
They love it, as it gives them a reason to live, & lots
of smiles & energy. |
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But, as other commenters said already, any
"dedicated facility" for old folks is primarily intended
for those with (incurable, degrading) functional
deficiencies, which make them unfit for work. |
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So, let's just continue to hire more old folks who are
still functional to serve in existing child care
facilities. |
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// nursing home elders visit kindergarten // |
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Some elderly people have had difficult, traumatic or stressful lives.
Haven't they suffered enough, without having other people's children
inflicted on them ? |
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old people hate little kids . |
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unless it's their little kids..... |
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