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I read De-Groof's annotation to another HB idea, and thought of this one.
See "locust navigation for cars"
http://www.ini.unizh.ch/~giacomo/papers/pdf/stirling97.pdf
The idea is to connect an insect's brain to a computer in the car's navigation system
Probably possible, but the truth
is I hope it's never implemented. It seems it would be better to emulate the insect's "brain" (or brains), or better yet, to find a way of communication so they agree to drive our cars.
(We'de have to pay them some way)
Bug brains on cars.
http://nersp.nerdc....hos/That_Gunk2.html [Amos Kito, Oct 01 2002, last modified Oct 04 2004]
Insect causes an accident
http://www.cdc.gov/...000058/d000058.html [Amos Kito, Oct 01 2002, last modified Oct 04 2004]
What to wash bugs with
http://www.prestone.com/products/26.jpeg A little to the upper left, ahhhh [thumbwax, Oct 01 2002, last modified Oct 04 2004]
Analog VLSI model of Locust DCMD Neuron Response
http://www.ini.uniz.../pdf/stirling97.pdf The paper [pashute] referenced. [admin: please use "link" to point to URLs, don't include them in your main text.] [jutta, Oct 01 2002]
Animal instincts in vehicles
http://tale.com/tit...e.phtml?title_id=64 Pick your instinctive behaviors carefully. [lurch, Oct 01 2002, last modified Oct 04 2004]
Cyborg Fly Pilots Robot Through Obstacle Course
http://spectrum.iee...ugh-obstacle-course Swiss researchers have used a fruit fly to steer a mobile robot through an obstacle course in the lab. They call it the Cyborg Fly. [xaviergisz, Aug 28 2010]
Library sign
https://www.faceboo...k&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R [pashute, Sep 03 2023]
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Brings up a frightening mental image of a group of mini vans driving in aimless circles around a street lamp. :) |
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I enjoyed the laughs, but please stop laughing at this idea. If there is anyone serious on neural and insect research, as well as bio-technology, I will be glad to hear about it. |
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I seriously think it is almost ready for baking. |
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the "Roachster", Thomas Easton. From a serial in Analog SF, Oct/Nov/Dec 1989. See link. |
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I keep thinking, though... when an accident does occur, who gets held responsible? "Well, squash my bug!" |
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We're laughing *with* the idea. Not *at* it. |
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Remotely controlling/technologically enhancing insects is valid research in the US DOD commuinty. |
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But, before you go and give the bugs some nifty little cars, just think of the implications. First bug cars, then bug tanks, then bug aircraft, then bug ICBMs. Bugs WILL rule the earth and it will all be your fault. |
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RE: Insect causes an accident link above...
//How could this injury have been prevented? // |
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How about hit the brakes when you realize you can't see where you're going? |
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[pashute], what is the point of this experimental idea? If you want to study the patterns of movement that species of insects make, why not study them directly? Why hook them up to huge vehicles? |
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The bugs would love to see us splatting against their windshields/-screens. |
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I reckon a bee would have navigated my car back home better than I did on saturday night. rear-wriggling seems to be the key and I cannot get the hang of it. |
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half a croissant - sorry I was hungry. |
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found the pub - wiggled about a bit - then got lost - despite much wiggling - where did I go wiggly? |
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hehehe.. 'twas the yamahito effect.. |
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seriously, there was something going on with people getting lost/delayed afterwards: DrBob and the subway, Zircon and the trains, not to mention po. |
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And my driver took over two hours to escape from London - we managed to cross the river without crossing the river. |
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[xaviergisz] Farz I can tell, the link doesn't describe
//connect[ing] the insect's brain to a computer// , except
in the trivial sense that it connects the insect's *behavior*
to a computer. Input to the fly is vision, via its eyes;
output is motion, via wing-flapping. No different from BF
Skinner's missile-piloting pigeons half a century ago, (and
vastly inferior to a seeing-eye dog) except that the animal
doesn't need to be trained. |
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Last I checked, systems in which nerve cells and
semiconductor computers really are integrated into a
hybrid network do exist, as research tools for
understanding biological neural networks -- so this is
probably bakeable, & maybe even baked. I question its
*usefulness* though. |
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Frankly, I'm not a big fan of using *human* brains to steer
automobiles. |
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Perhaps more achievable might be to have an ant's movements controlling a gigantic ant exoskeleton |
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At least it will occasionally get out of the way of first responders. Instead of cruise, call it buzz. It'd be a great way to see the city even if you might end up upside down in a kitchen. |
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