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Deep fake technology is used to create a virtual replica
of
a person from history who appears before the class on a
large TV monitor and announces "Hello, I'm a virtual
representation
of Nickola Tesla and after a brief review of my life and
accomplishments I'll be taking questions."
This
has been done with real people where recordings of
several hours of questions from a group, typically a
classroom full of kids asks questions of the real person
who
is then recorded answering that question. The video
response is stored in a database for when that question
is
asked again, at which time the recorded video of the
answer to that question is activated to play. The more
questions
asked of the real
person,
the more the recorded person can answer. Pretty cool.
This puts deep fake technology to work to bring people
from history back to life. The same process is used but
with an actor who's an expert on the subject. The actor
of course doesn't need to answer in real time and a list
of questions and answered could simply be recorded.
The
face of
the historical figure is then superimposed upon the actor
and the database of hours of answers is compiled so a
virtual "live chat" with a person from history could be
enjoyed by the class.
A fun objective for the class would be to ask an
interesting question that might not be in the database
triggering Nikola to say "Hmm, you know, I'm not sure,
let
me look into that." making the process if increasing the
conversation database kind of fun and challenging for
both the classes and the people programming the virtual
history guy.
Now if I were in charge, I'd have the virtual historical
figure well primed for dealing with smart ass questions
like
"So Nikola, moronsayswhat?" to which Nik would smile
and
say "I don't have an answer for that but if science was
easy
we'd call it your mother.".
Deep Fake Greetings cards for Dead Celebrities
https://www.bbc.co....nment-arts-54731382
[zen_tom, Nov 18 2020]
Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096928/
[zen_tom, Nov 18 2020]
(?) Medical-grade coffee
https://dilbert.com...content=strip-image
You know you need it. [8th of 7, Nov 18 2020]
Low tech approach from an old TV show.
https://www.youtube...watch?v=hKRxZSOqAYw
[doctorremulac3, Nov 22 2020]
The Who Was Show
https://www.youtube...watch?v=JUZXlQis2k4
A contemporary take on the idea, for kids, with a bias slightly towards answering important questions of our time, like "Which of Einstein, Ghandi and Benjamin Franklin could throw the sickest moves on the dance-floor?" We are all probably doomed. [zen_tom, Nov 22 2020]
Well, the technology finally showed up.
https://fb.watch/x_Z5yq988C/
[doctorremulac3, Feb 26 2025]
[link]
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Kind-of in-the-oven-but -not-actually-baked in the Holodeck scene where Data plays cards with Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein and the real Stephen Hawking (Factoid: The only real person ever to portray themselves in an episode of Star Trek) but we will award a croissant nonetheless. |
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So, Donald, what really happened in the 2020 election? |
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It might be a cool learning tool but open to propagand-ish embellishments, and asking VR Nikola how he amplified am radio waves to power a car remotely or how he intended free wireless transmission of electricity won't get any answers. |
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Hmm, now THAT is an insightful and interesting
point 2 Fries. (might want to take notes kdf, rather
than continuing your poorly thought out, cookie
cutter MFD, WKTE nonsense.) Questions would
have to take into consideration when the person
lived. So the questions you suggested would not be
answerable by an actual re-animated Tesla. |
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Hmm. Maybe you just use some artistic license and
have the virtual person know about events that
have happened since they’ve died. What WOULD
Tesla say about wireless internet access, something
he envisioned? The moon landing, streaming
movies, video games etc? |
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And kdf, my idea would allow thousands of people
to access hundreds of historical figures and
interact with them at any time from any place.
You’re suggesting it would be better to just have
thousands of actors in makeup and ready to go on
line 24 hours a day? It’s not a contest to see how
many ideas you can shoot down. Think of this
place as more friendly
cocktail party and less Spanish Inquisition. |
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If someone (say, [doctorremulac3]) were to bake this, for example by creating a virtual interactive Freud, and make it available to anyone who wanted to use it (for profit or not), I would not have a problem. |
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But in the context of a classroom, there is something that I'm going to call "the propaganda of the context", until I can find a better term for it, that comes into play. |
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Well the creators are going to certainly have
control over what Freud or Tesla or Einstein says,
no way around that. But hopefully this would be
largely encyclopedic in its contents and useful to
teach about the person in an entertaining way. |
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There was a show on to a long time ago where the
host would feature actors dressed as famous
people from history that would sit around and
discuss various subjects. I’ll find a link. |
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Well, hopefully doth butter no parsnips. The way I look at it, freedom to create content is a wonderful thing, but it needs to be balanced by freedom to take it or leave it. So my problem is not with your idea (go for it!), but with embedding it within an authoritarian structure and applying it to a captive audience. |
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Links provided for what I had presumed to be both
fairly mainstream references. The first being the
recent usage of "deep fake" technology by Kanye
West (that guy who ran for president this last
year?) who made a deep fake to wish his wife happy
birthday, famously putting not very humble words
into her dead father's mouth. |
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And the second reference is Bill & Ted's excellent
adventure where the eponymous duo learn about
history by use of technology allowing them to have
direct conversations with big-hitting historical
celebs. So basically this idea, but with time
travel instead of computerised mimicry. |
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Context so back-filled, hopefully you'll be able to catch up and vibe
along, rather than conjour-up spurious health issues on either of our parts. Isn't it early where
you are? Maybe a big old cup of coffee is in order. |
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Hmm, maybe we both had a stroke. That would
make for an interesting conversation. “This is a
bucket of butter with devil horns.” “There’s crisp
toluene carrots on top of Bat-Rabbit,” |
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But stroke or not, coffee is always a good idea. I
will accept that suggestion. |
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I always need at least 3 before my head-carriage
starts working on anything other than the strictest
of autopilots. |
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You clearly need medical-grade coffee <link> |
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// Hmm, maybe we both had a stroke. That would make for an interesting conversation. // |
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Furbying... sometimes, elderly people in care homes will strike up a "conversation" which consists of a rambling sequence of almost-but-not-quite non-sequiturs which can continue for surprisingly long times and is highly amusing to those posessed of a certain bleak sense of humour and lack of respect for the unfortunate. |
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//a rambling sequence of almost-but-not-quite non-
sequiturs// [marked-for-tagline] and, welcome to the
halfbakery! |
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(Could definitely do with some of that medical-grade
coffee though - equally, I'd be happy with
"industrial-strength") |
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Ahh, coffee. My morning reason to do the whole
getting out of bed thing. Like meth but more
acceptable if you're attending a fancy tuxedo and
gown event. |
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Wearing a tuxedo with a gown is rather passé ... though it can look OK if the you get the shoes and handbag right. |
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Many historical figures are not considered child
friendly. But I like the idea. |
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"An Evening With Vlad Tepes" is probably going to pull in a fairly narrow - if enthusiastic - audience segment ... |
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// even living ones - to have around for advice // |
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As in "Oh, you should have taken that slip-road to the junction ... you'll have to go back ..." ? |
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To borrow money from, to get you home when you're intoxicated, and in extreme cases, help you dispose of the bodies. |
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// 8th, you might enjoy this series. // |
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Noted for immediate action. |
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This is a question of whether a computational consciousness chatbot can be constructed from an encompassing biography data set, to give answers close to the target person's answers. I doubt the data set can be large enough especially the further back in time the person lived. Modern meal posting celebs might be different. |
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No doubt programming these things to be useful would be
a
challenge. You'd basically be talking to a virtual, synthetic
expert on the person and let's face it, this would rely
pretty
heavily on the fact that nobody's actually heard Aristotle
speak. |
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That being said, it might be worth trying. |
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Here's a low tech approach to the idea I used to watch
sometimes when I was a kid. (link) They just use artistic
licence and a little humor to
address the stuff that happened after their time. Teddy
Rosevelt saying he thought his Mount Rushmore
representation made him look fat for instance. |
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(re link) //"Which of Einstein, Ghandi and Benjamin Franklin
could
throw the sickest moves on the dance-floor?" We are all
probably doomed.// |
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I appreciate your optimism by putting "probably" in that
sentence. |
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//nobody's actually heard Aristotle speak// Probably. You don't know for sure. |
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But how interesting would that be to do a sort of linguistic archaeology eh? Best guess would probably work. Nobody's gonna call you out on it unless they've done better research, in which case hire them. |
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