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In dealing with the "land of no good options," surely the
sanest
option is to simply let the natural economic ties between
North
Korea and their Chinese neighbors continue to build and
modernize, until they become the main, indispensable
story,
and
KJU and his regime become simply a sidelined
figurehead
with
a rubber
stamp.
Face is saved. War is averted, and prosperity comes.
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Prior Art [8th of 7, Sep 05 2017]
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It's of considerably more advantage for the Chinese to allow
the current situation to persist and develop,with them
gaining power by being the only external influence on NK,
and the Americans being demonstrably impotent and
incompetent in their frustrated rantings and idiotic rage
driven bluster. Like obedient small minded fish, America
continues to leap up and awallow the bait, hook, line and
sinker every time NK makes the smallest of any moves.
Meanwhile, China sits back and laughs. Why should they do
anything to change that? |
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Increasingly America is being exposed in the region as a
tiger that keeps on roaring loudly; baring its sharp teeth,
and thereby exposing its rotten gums, and bad breath. |
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I think you give too little thought to the irksomeness of having
an unstable and poverty-stricken nuclear neighbor sharing a
border. It is not to their advantage to have NK actually pose a
serious threat, it is just enough of one to keep a burr in our
side. |
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I highly doubt that China likes having a bunch of US forces just
a jump away from a sea and trading zone they'd like to
dominate. |
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Apparently, China is worried about a mass exodus from North
Korea in the event of the collapse of the regime. |
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Why not build a wall between China and North Korea and get
the North Koreans to pay? It's such a good idea, I don't know
why anyone hasn't thought of it before. |
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There are sticks and then there are carrots. Laying them out on the table would show how adults work out what is best personally for the future. |
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Then again, NK leaders may just want to lessen the population for the betterment of the of themselves. |
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And then there are carrot sticks. Being both unfit for
consumption and lousy weapon, I'm not certain what they are
used
for. |
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// Like obedient small minded fish, America continues to leap up and awallow the bait hook, line and sinker every time NK makes the smallest of any moves.// |
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Since the real objective is signing billion dollar arms deals the American elite are getting precisely what they want. |
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// carrot sticks. ... I'm not certain what they are used for. // |
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A form of nutritional flagellation, beloved of the health fascists. |
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Any country should be able to do nuclear research for the betterment of mankind's collective knowledge but it's when you start pointing your knowledge in the wrong direction it becomes anti-social. |
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Isn't NK on the wrong side of gun count anyway. A boy carrying a BB gun versus large group of people carrying Desert Eagles. If there are going to be casualties the stats will be against NK. The rest of the world, ultimately, could wipe North Korea off the map. It would be messy though. |
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Well, at least it's not in Other: General |
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But there would be some other generals in it. |
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[Voice] has followed the money, at least in the general direction. Damn, there's that word again. |
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The real problem is, how do you expand your country with a governing system no-one else wants. It's not not like there's vast tracks of land to plant the flag and clone your country. |
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Particularly if you build a wall along one if your borders ... |
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On Korea, the mistake was Eisenhour s. The Chinese
would love for the US to blink and end exercises, so they've
really been reluctant to reign Kim in, but even with Xis new
consolidation of power, they don't want routine nuclear
tests in neighborhood, and they don't want nukes in SK and
Japan, which they will get it this goes much longer. |
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//It's not not like there's vast tracks of land to plant the flag and
clone your country.// |
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Wait. I see it now. Those missile tests are just a cover. The real
plan is to send rocket-loads of communist colonists to Mars.
Turn the red planet red. Strike up the Interplaneteriale, etc. |
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Well, we all have to leave the nest at some point. Hopefully before we have fouled it up too much. |
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Little rockets all the same
There's a green one and a red one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of mechy smashy
And they all escape just the same
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What is the song I'm supposed to sing that to the tune of ? |
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You've missed your calling, [8th]. McDonalds' loss. |
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You want fries with that ? |
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Regarding the rockets, I was thinking. |
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You know how North Korea occasionally fire off a missile out to sea, over as many other countries as they can manage?
You know how various places are trying to develop anti-missile missiles? |
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Why don't the neighbouring countries all accomodate an anti-missile site, and just test the anti-missiles on everything that flies?
It would make it much harder for them to develop reliable missiles if every time they launched one, three or four anti-missiles converge on it as soon as it's over international waters. |
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And we could to phone them up every now and then and shout "Pull!" |
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It's an attractive idea, but you really don't want to show the opposition exactly what your capabilities are until it comes to a shooting war. |
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A critical strategic ploy is to blindside your opponent with a bit of clever kit they don't know you have. |
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//It's an attractive idea, but you really don't want to show the opposition exactly what your capabilities are until it comes to a shooting war.// |
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Well, you might if you want to stop there being a shooting war.
(Particularly since if it does come to that, it would help to have the system on-site, all set up and calibrated, rather than on the other side of the planet.) |
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Anyway, it's pretty simple for some of the more developed anti-missile candidates to not show, or to secretly give themselves a handicap while things look like trials. |
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I don't think that NK would have much of a response to our
being able to hit a missile with another missile. Methinks
that'll send'em back to the drawing board for quite some time,
probably concentrating instead on IOT attacks against
infrastructure and whatnot. |
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// you want to stop there being a shooting war. // |
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//A critical strategic ploy is to blindside your opponent with a bit of clever kit they don't know you have.// Ah, I see Sturton brought his Mark 17 round last time he visited. |
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It's the last time he ever gets invited to afternoon tea and a game of croquet. Cheating is one thing, but the mess, and worst of all the smell, was indescribable; and the grass has only just started to grow back. |
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Those hoops were antique, you know. |
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You actually _invited_ him? I've never heard of that being done before. |
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We did actually invite him. Yes, it was a mistake. |
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We didn't count on his amazing ability to detect and avoid pitfall traps, landmines, tripwires, and all the rest of the preparations we had made. |
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He even spotted that the doormat was made from carefully-woven det cord. |
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It's uncanny, it really is. |
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Breaking rocks out of the reach of the hot sun. |
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We do need a country to start off the asteroid mining race. There's plenty of kudos and it needs tons of juche. |
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// If there is one country a power vacuum is preferable, its North Korea.// |
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I think they already have power vacuums. Whenever you see footage from NK, the streets are always incredibly clean. |
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I think China dreads the inevitable crisis that would take place
once KJU were removed. Millions of essentially miseducated
refugees suddenly becoming part of your country is a shock to
any system. Just ask Germany. |
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