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We just killed the modern Hitler. Real modern Hitler not
some argument-hyperbole-Hitler, Al Baghdadi, the leader
of ISIS. One of the team
members of this amazingly dangerous operation was a
dog that lost a leg in the course of his duty. He'll
be OK, but his combat days are over.
So let's
give this pooch a parade where we all call out his
name saying "GOOD BOY REX! GOOD BOY REX!" (or
whatever his name is) The dog would hear his name
being
chanted by everybody and know they were praising him.
He might be a bit overwhelmed, but he'd get it, we
woudn't just be making noise. I believe the pooch would
really enjoy it and he or she absolutely deserves it.
Obviously if it's a girl, change the chant as necessary.
I would absolutely show for such an event.
Here's our hero.
https://www.militar...urned-to-full-duty/
[doctorremulac3, Oct 29 2019]
Lock Him Up!
https://www.theguar...-world-series-video
.... Throw away the key..... [xenzag, Oct 29 2019]
Airplane travel. Only a fool would get on an airplane.
https://www.thought...plane-crash-1779178
Unsafe yet people still get on airplanes to this day. [doctorremulac3, Oct 29 2019]
Not so fast!
https://babylonbee....o-dog-sniffed-butts
CNN Uncovers Evidence Hero Dog Sniffed Dozens Of Butts Back In College [Voice, Oct 29 2019]
US army dogs, para 21
https://www.army.mi...rdians_of_the_night
[bs0u0155, Oct 29 2019]
Can a computer do this?
https://twitter.com...nois-for-the-win%2F
Yea, someday, but right now they're pretty stupid and awkward. [doctorremulac3, Oct 30 2019]
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We can all look forward to a rodent parade for the
tiny mouse that chases The Great Dictator Trump
into a prison cell. |
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Perhaps Rex is just preternaturally gifted at recognizing the worst people, no mouse required. However, you did go some way to redefining a pride parade. Maybe if Rex could be renamed Rainbow. |
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So a man who kidnapped women and kept them as
rape slaves for his followers, cut people's heads off
on camera and filmed people being burned alive is
killed by Trump and you're angry at Trump? Please
explain. |
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Squeak, squeak...... imagines blind panic in the
Whitehouse. |
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Me personally? I've never been angry at Trump. He's just a symptom of how badly the U.S. degenerated. He's a comic idiot for the money-loving idiots in America who produce him. If Trump gets impeached, it's only going to address the problems Trump himself created. |
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So are you sad this monster was killed? Don't seem to
be celebrating it much. You both actually seem kind
of angry
that it
happened because it could be taken as a win for
Trump. |
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You are mistaking Trump for the U.S. military. Easy to conflate presidents and military decisions in the U.S. |
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In sheer scale, Trump is responsible for a million
times those crimes by refusing to curb America's
massive contribution to global warming. Entire
species are being wiped out; island communities
are disappearing under rising sea levels. It depends
on how big a crime you think species extinction is.
Meanwhile, psychos just as bad as Baghdadi have
been entertained in the Whitehouse, so keep a
perspective. It wasn't that long ago that the Saudis
had a journalist cut up and disappeared, and their
human rights record is no better than that of ISIS
re abuse of women, gay men, etc, but no one's
chasing their leaders down any tunnels. Why is
that? |
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//Easy to conflate presidents and military decisions
in the U.S.// |
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Might be because the President is the commander-in-
chief of the armed forces. In this case, as with other
important military decisions, the President is
appraised of the situation so he can give it a green
light or tell them not to go in. |
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//Trump is responsible for a million times those crimes by
refusing to curb America's massive contribution to global
warming.// |
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As far as Trump causing global warming, your side is the
one stopping nuclear power because it doesn't generate
carbon credits thus making money for the one world
government fascist elite whose sole purpose is creating a
slave class of mindless drones who are permanently put
into debt slave status and thrown quasi religious dogma
like "ORANGE MAN BAD!" so their can fulfill their role as
easily manipulated,
foaming at the mouth sycophants while propping up the
military
industrial complex, never ending wars, supporting the
Chinese poisoning of the atmosphere, demographic
changes that insure one party political control and driving
down wages just so they can fill their never ending
hunger for power. |
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But I don't really have an opinion on the subject, I just
thought it would be nice to make the doggie feel good. |
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As a reward, allow 'the doggie hero' to chew off
the bone spur that prevented the Stable Genius
from military service, then everyone's happy. |
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So you lose your hero Al Baghdadi and turn to fantasies of
torture? |
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I see a lot of murder and torture fantasies from your side.
Creepy. |
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I think you'll find that it was America who
specialises in the torture of waterboarding. You
can't assume any high moral ground when you also
come from a country that locks up migrant babies
in filthy camps either, or poisons an entire
community with lead. (Flint Michigan) |
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See, even the worst noises from politicians begin to have a rhythm. I didn't take to mind the locking up of children or Trump's gleeful descriptions of torture in my emotional reaction. It's never been anger at him, just disgust, which doesn't take him seriously enough. |
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//You can't assume any high moral ground when
you also
come from a country that locks up migrant babies
in filthy
camps either,// |
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You're referring to the camps Obama opened I
assume. I
also assume you'd be nice to terrorists who blow up
buildings and open rape camps. I'm sure that if you
were
in charge we'd all be bowing to Global Emperor Bin
Laden by now. |
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So what about the the child trade where children
are
bought and sold to be used to get people across
the
border? "ORANGE MAN BAD!" |
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OK, how about the tens of thousands of deaths a
year
from drugs smuggled across an open border?
"ORANGE
MAN BAD!" |
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What about the driving down of wages by the
importing of
cheap labor to make the rich even richer and
destroy the
middle class while establishing a one party
political system? "ORANGE MAN BAD!" |
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Speaking of a poisoned environment, what do you
say to
globalist fascists shutting down clean, safe nuclear
and
hydro power so they can replace it with carbon tax
generating fossil fuels to line the pockets of the
already
ridiculously wealthy global
elites? "ORANGE MAN BAD!" |
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Honestly, with all these torture fantasies of yours,
would
you take Hitler's script for genocide, cross out
"Jews" and
replace it with "Trump supporters"? |
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Be honest. Look deep into your psyche and ask
yourself
that. If the answer is something you wouldn't
admit to,
might want to do some critical soul searching. |
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It was America that created Bin Laden in the first
place. They brought him there in person;
entertained him; put money in his pockets and
guns in his hands. When you create a monster,
better be sure that you can control him. As regards
"clean, safe nuclear power" - have you heard of
Chernobyl? The nuclear power industry is unsafe,
inefficient and totally destructive. Uranium mines
are particularly damaging to the environment.
America can lecture no other country when it
comes to protection of the environment. Trump
has repealed law after law to allow the polluters
free reign. I know you agree with him thinking he's
a "stable genius", but for the rest of the entire
world, he's at best a joke, who makes America into
a total laughing stock, and at worst a modern day
criminal dictator - the 21st century's new age Adolf
Hitler, who was recently booed out of one of
Washington's sports stadium. |
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We supported Stalin against Hitler too, sometimes
you play the hand you were dealt. Sometimes you
win, sometimes you lose. That's why I'm an
isolationist, I don't think it's a good idea to
try to civilize the world. We tried it with Europe
twice and what did we get for it? |
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//As regards "clean, safe nuclear power" - have
you heard of Chernobyl?// |
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In regards to safe air travel have you heard of the
Wright Flyer? See link. Why would anybody in their
right mind get on one of these dangerous
airplanes? They should be outlawed. |
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So what about it Xenophobexag? Death camps for
Trump supporters, yes or no? Why won't you
answer? If the answer is no, just say no, it would
be so
easy. |
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But you can't. I think that says it all. |
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<Rummages in "Wind up [xenzag]" toolbox/> |
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Ah, excellent, found it ... |
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<Raises illuminated "Genetic Modification is good ! Go, Monsanto, Go !" sign /> |
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<Starts to put "Seal cull", "Badger cull", "Whale research by Japanese" and "Roundup Ready" signs in order ready for further provocation/> |
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<Finds "Guantanamo Bay" sign, gloats/> |
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<Wonders if [xen] can be tricked into accepting a free holiday in Kim Ping-Pong's ("A smile, a song, and a faceful of fast-acting neurotoxin") People's Free Democratic Republic of North Korbyn/> |
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I think primary school for Trump supporters would
be a better idea. Lessons in humanity would
supplement reading, writing and simple numeracy. |
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Maybe the first lesson would be learning the
difference between a man you disagree with and a
homocidal maniac so you don't put them in the same
category just because it gives you a dopamine rush. |
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Sp. "Target recognition training". |
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// learning the difference between a man you disagree with and a homocidal maniac // |
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That sounds like a lot of unnecessary effort. Kill them both, then you can work out the details later, at your leisure. |
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// In sheer scale, Trump is responsible for a million times
those crimes by refusing to curb America's massive
contribution to global warming// |
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Trump is no Dalai Lama, but Jesus that is one dumb and
embarrassing statement. |
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<Experiments with photoshopping a bouffant hairstyle on a picture of the Dalai Lama/> |
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I wanted to post this link when I first saw the idea, but I didn't want to be the twat that brings up his politics in an unrelated idea. Fortunately [xenzag] already fractured that ice into individual molecules. |
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LOL! Well, if we were staging a contest for the
funniest link in Halfbakery history, I think the
competition is over, Voice has taken home the
trophy. |
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By the way, the thing I read that said the pooch
lost a leg was incorrect. He's fine and back in
action last I heard. |
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<Experiments with photoshopping a shaved head on a picture of Joe Biden/> |
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<Wonders if anyone should be told/> |
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“I hope ever to see America among the foremost
nations of justice and liberality.” |
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“But lest some unlucky event should happen
unfavorable to my reputation, I beg it may be
remembered by every gentleman in the room that
I this day declare with the utmost sincerity, I do
not think myself equal to the command I am
honored with.” |
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“We don't want to keep soldiers between Syria and
Turkey for the next 200 years. We're out, but we
are leaving soldiers to secure the oil.” |
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//We're out// As per Putin’s orders, and having
shit all over the Kurds who were instrumental in
the operation of targeting Baghdadi, and
instrumental in the defeat of ISIS. This is probably
why the departing American forces were pelted
with potatoes and called lying cowards by the
Kurds whom they abandoned. The Stable Genius
strikes again. |
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do try to have less spittle around your mouth when you talk
when you talk about Trump or America in general. It's
unattractive. |
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One of my favorite recent discoveries is that military dogs
always outrank their handlers <link>. It's essentially a
mechanism to ensure proper handling and that any
warnings/tells are followed up on, but it's endlessly fun to
think about. |
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Its also endlessly satisfying to see the difference in speed &
agility between a motivated dog and even more motivated
ne'er-do-well. I'm amazed the USAF hasn't found a way of
deploying Belgian malinois from A10 hardpoints. |
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One of my not very recent discoveries is that idea
annotations tend to have a Pavlovian character :) |
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"teaches the dogs off-leash capabilities to search for and
detect explosives. This capability gives the handler
increased standoff distance..." |
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The language of the millitary industrial marrowbone jelly
complex never changes... |
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(somewhere in the Soviet Union c1983: "Borris, what is
this new weapons system?? "standoff semi-autonomous
all-terrain, amphibious, anti-personell & mine clearance
unit?" how does this weigh less than 60 kg? and why does
it require tennis balls?" |
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It might be possible to deploy Yorkshire Terriers from a cluster munition. That would be a whole new form of terror weapon. |
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The Russians don't exactly have an unbesmirched reputation for caring for dogs, what with their Dog Mine idea and all ... |
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On a similar note, it has been discovered that a ShitZu loaded
directly in front of a 150mm artillery shell can increase its
muzzle velocity by up to 7%, by removing powder residues
from the barrel ahead of the projectile. |
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//As per Putin’s orders// |
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Notice how your programming directs you to obsess
about Putin and Russia while ignoring China? China
has death camps, but you don't care, because you
haven't been programmed to care. China has
thought police but you don't care, because you
haven't been programmed to care. Do you ever
wonder why? Your "views" have been bought and
paid for. |
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The Ukrain has a legitimate problem with Russian
domination going back quite a while. Millions
murdered by Stalin for starters, control by the
Tzars before that. So they've been smart and
purchased American politicians to support them in
fighting back the Russian threat. I support the
Ukrain and would probably do the same thing if I
were them, but that's why you've been
programmed to hate Russia, which is a backward
country run by a bunch of drunks, and as one
brilliant expert on hight tech espionage put it,
"They've basically Mexico with nukes." At the same
time, you've been told to ignore China which is an
actual expansionist fascist evil empire that really
does pose a threat to us. They buy American
politicians and have actually impacted freedom of
speech around the world. This is real, this is not
a fantasy. Do you know your movies are edited by
Hollywood so as to please their Chinese thought
master overlords? No, you don't, but then again,
you don't care because you haven't been told to
care. |
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You do as your told, hate who you're told to hate
and chant the prescribed mantras to fend off the
evil of those who don't buy into the glorious global
elitist plan for world domination. You're told to
hate Russia, you hate Russia. You're told to ingore
China's being the greatest polluter in the world
while decrying the use of plastic straws in
America, you do as your told. If the military
industrial complex tells you that by adjusting some
troops in Syria, Russia now owns the middle east,
you believe it, despite the fact that Russia has a
presence in Syria while we have bases in Iraq,
Saudi Arabia, Yemin, Turkey, Jordan, Kuwait,
Bahrain, Qatar, Oman, Afghanistan, Pakistan and
yes, even Syria. (still) But Putin now runs the place.
Riiiight. |
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You either have the ability to think for yourself or
you don't. I feel sorry for people that need to be
led around that can't evaluate this complicated
world on their own, weigh the best approach and
work towards the best path to managing this
complicated civilization we share. I may not be
right on everthing, but my views were created by
one person. Me. |
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That's quite rant! Meanwhile, Trump still buys all his steel from China and the American flags you probably wave around are all printed in China. I bet there's nothing you currently use that wasn't made in China. Throw it all away live the American dream in total purity. |
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I have the utmost respect and love for the USA as a
nation. It has always been the he place of dreams
and aspirations for us Brits. Please don’t
misunderstand the hostility for your current leader
for hatred of you as a nation and as people in your
own right. We also have a leader who is ridiculous,
and has his own personal gain as his key
motivation. |
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If you want to Make America Great Again, and if
we want to Make Britain Great Again, that requires
some grown-up, intelligent, careful and humble
decisions about what is good and right for humans
and the planet now and going forward. |
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I've been known to check 6 news sources a day, few of which are believable in any meaningful way, but there is no doubt that your beliefs only come from you. Even the "mainstream" beliefs you're setting up as strawmen aren't showing up in mainstream media I've seen (or even Russia TV). It's more like you're sticking your head in your toilet bowl and shouting why won't it answer you. |
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Meanwhile, everybody seems to have overlooked the fact that
"Al Baghdadi" is an hilarious name. |
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[DrR3] I’ve lived and worked in China, Russia,
Spain, Germany, Australia, Singapore, Saudi Arabia
and the UK. I have friends who have grown up
under every kind of political regime from Facism
to Communism to Islamism, and seen those
regimes fall and be replaced over and over. |
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I have loved my time in every one of those nations,
and discovered whole new cultures and world
views. I’ve had great conversations with extremists
of every colour. They’re all lovely people. |
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None of these national ideologies make their
citizens bad people. Someone has to step above
the bickering over political colour, and think about
mankind as a whole. The USA once-upon-a-time
showed a potential to do that. |
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(Xen) And when Trump tries do something about
the trade inequity between China and the US you
support him... how? |
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And Frankx, while I’ve seen a bit of the world,
nothing close to your experience, but we’re in
total agreement. America has been a beacon of
hope for millions of people, my ancestors included,
but I fear that we’re susceptible to the same
pitfalls that have beset other countries. I saw a
picture of a street Germany in 1936 and was
haunted by the question: “Are they just evil and
we’re good? They sure looked like us. Cars,
telephones, radio shows. Might the disease of
fascism hit us too?”. |
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It’s why I get a bit animated when people suggest
overturning a democratic election, are engaging in
never ending wars or turning us against each other
in order to control us. Gives you pause for
concern. |
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Thanks [DrR3]. I’m glad we agree. That’s why I
would suggest an intelligent foreign policy would
be to fund and build infrastructure, schools,
hospitals and universities in impoverished and
disrupted nations/regions (Syria, Iraq, west
Africa...) that might be breeding grounds for
hostility. It would be much harder to recruit
extremists and suicide bombers from a community
for whom a family member has been
treated/educated in a facility that was provided
by the USA for instance. |
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I suspect such an approach would be economically
beneficial (compared to military spending). And I
suspect China is already very actively doing this,
without anyone noticing. |
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Well I certainly like the idea of helping people rise
up
from their plight. Currently I'm rooting for Hong
Kong and
its brave people struggling for freedom from
tyranny, but
there are good people all over the world who are
dealing
with the ravages of various civilization challenges,
be it
totalitarianism, narco state violence or just
rampant
poverty. |
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I saw a thought provoking show that suggested
that the
cure for war and poverty is commerce and I agree
with that
to a large extent. Un-regulated commerce can be
destructive too but a free market and trade
between
countries can be a good place to start. |
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By the way, due notice, I myself have had products
that
I've invented and brought to market manufactured
in
China. In my defense, I reviewed the
documentation
created by a much larger company than mine
where they
evaluated the human rights and treatment of the
factory
workers, their safety, environmental impact etc. It
was
also the American factories that told me I had to
go
overseas to have a viable business model. |
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So I can boycott doing business with China, but
that's not
helping the working class people making a living in
the
factories. It's their government I don't like, not
them. Am I being hypocritical? Gotta be honest,
I've asked myself that from time to time. It also
must be said, my purchases probably represent one
half of a trillionth of their economy. Maybe a
hundredth of that. Don't make me do math. |
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Anyway, I'm looking into bringing production home,
at least for
one part. There's a factory in San Diego that looks
promising. |
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Did the dog chase the man because it was in his nature to do
so, or did the dog chase the man because it had been trained
and told to do so? If the former, why are we praising a dog
for doing what dogs do? If the latter, the inevitable
consequence is that we have parades for missile guidance
computers. |
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And rightly so, we say - although they would probably prefer to have their dust filters cleaned, and a disk upgrade. They're not bothered about mere public adulation. |
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// Did the dog chase the man because it was in his nature to do so // |
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For future operations the best thing is obviously to trick your opponents into disguising themselves as postmen ... |
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What's clearly needed for situations like this is a rocket-
propelled self-adhesive Chocolate Digestive. If you can get
one onto the back of your target, problem solved. |
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this whole thing somehow reminds me of the way we were
celebrating Laika when I was growing up. |
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the dog can't give a shit, to be sure, beyond appreciating its
handler's approval. |
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// In regards to safe air travel have you heard of the Wright Flier? // |
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"Always handle a flight safety manual with utmost respect - it's written with the blood of the pilots who died so it could be written". |
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//why are we praising a dog for doing what dogs
do? If the latter, the inevitable consequence is that
we have parades for missile guidance
computers.// |
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Well, because he did the job he was trained to do,
he helped kill a genocidal rape slavery obsessed
maniac, there's that. I guess you could say the
soldiers were just doing what they were trained to
do as well. Einstein just came up with the theory
of
relativity because that's the kind of thing scientists
are trained to do. |
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Also, we love dogs, we don't love missile guidance
computers. Throw a parade for the guidance
computer and see how many people show up. |
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Also also, it's a way for us to celebrate the death
of this monster and you could say, the symbiotic
relationship between man and dog since we both
figured out that we make good hunter gatherer
partners, each filling in where the other is weak in
a way that's beneficial to both. |
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The flier / flyer fuckup. I actually wrote flyer and
changed it because it looked wrong. I'll take the
shame
lap on that one. First rule of Halfbakery: don't
misspell
shit. Second rule of Halfbakery: don't misspell shit. |
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// we don't love missile guidance computers. // |
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Shame on you .. we hope you get sent in a mission to Jupiter and your sentient computer turns on you. |
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I'm all for celebrating the dog (though he/she would probably
just wonder who the parade was for). Celebrating the killing
of Al Baghdadi (still a funny name, btw), not so much. Sure, I
think it's a good thing that he's dead, but in general I think
celebrating the killing of a particular person is not the way a
state should behave. Let the relevant people whoop it up in
private. |
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"I'll call you Baghdadi, Baghdadi when you call me you can
caaall meeee Al, call me Al." |
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You make a good point about not being celebratory
about death and I agree, but there would be no
mention of it in the parade. There's a video of
Hillary Clinton laughing after making the joke
about killing Momar Khadaffi, "We came, we saw,
he died. HAHAHAHAH!" and it's disgusting. |
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So I would argue it's a celebration of life. The lives
of people this brave dog saved. Kind of like
parades after the end of WW2, the horror has
ended. |
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As far as the computers, they're a comparatively
simple handful of on off switches. The dog is a
complex bio electrical chemical mechanical
masterpiece of incredible engineering that
compares to the computer like a Escher print
compares to a monkey's crayon drawing. |
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Plus the dog can do this: (link) |
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Trump just accused someone of quitting "like a dog." Combine that with his claim that someone "died like a dog" and I'm inclined to think that Trump isn't a dog person. |
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I have serious doubts "quit like a dog" is anything like a real expression. What's next, "impeached like a dog"? |
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I would imagine he's terrified of dogs, as he is of
most animals. His trophy hunting psycho sons (aka
Beavis and Butthead) certainly enjoy
exterminating endangered animals, so a hatred of
living beings extends in his family from poor
migrant people, whom he wants border guards to
shoot, into all animal species. I'm sure that
includes dogs, however, every dog has its day, and
there must be one called 'Impeachment' that's
getting ready to lift its leg on his. |
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Do you guys (xen and 4&20) ever think about
anything other than Donald
Trump? Will he still be the center of your existence
when
he's out of office, be it tomorrow or in 5 years? |
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Or is this just wanting to interact with me? Maybe I
should
be flattered. |
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FTR, I often think about non-Trump things. I have plenty of
Trump opinions, but I'm happy to sit on them until a Trump-
related discussion gets underway. Likewise Brexit. |
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And no, [doc], I don't want to see you flattened. |
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Thank you Max, not wanting to flatten somebody is
the highest
compliment in my culture. |
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If you were flattened, with whom could I have unreasonable
arguments? Oh wait; there's [xen] and [2fries] and [Voice]
and [Beany] and [JesusHChrist]. |
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What ever happened to [JHC] anyway? Maybe we should have
an MIA page where these unauthorised absences can be
investigated. |
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