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hmmm, what's the carbon footprint for this sequestered carbon?
...and are those who (whom?) sequester known as sequestrians? |
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Wait.
Something tells me that I am totally missing the point of this amn't I? |
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I'm not sure what this has to do with a carbon tax, but it could be a good marketing approach for man-made diamonds. They market conflict-free diamonds, so carbon sequestration diamonds (also conflict free) might work as well. Just be sure to get all the power from renewable sources. Also do the research to see how much old is burned in the process of mining diamonds. If you get really lucky, it will show that man-made diamonds actually take less energy to produce. |
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I think after a while they would lose their luster. |
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I'll have *my* diamonds made from the carbon sequestered from the power station which generates the energy required to make *your*
sequestered-carbon diamonds. So there. |
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the idea [scad] is to popularize the creation and
purchasing of such jewelry, creating an alternative
market. |
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Diamond is one of the higher (chemical) energy compounds of carbon. So pretty much by definition it will take more energy to convert sequestered CO2 to diamond than was taken out by burning the hydrocarbons in the first place. |
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Remember, popular shorthand (carbon for carbon dioxide) is not the same as a chemical formula. |
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Of course, the very *best* diamonds are made by pumping Grade-A aviation fuel over a swathe of virgin rainforest, filling it with endangered animals, and then torching the lot - the carbon sequestered from such a proceedure gives the resulting diamonds a fantastically wonderful clarity and brilliance not found in diamonds made from inferior quality carbon, as well as an intangable sense of rarity, loss and impermanence that other mere rocks just don't have. |
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//creating an alternative market.//
Because of that statement, De Beers will have the HB and all traces of it wiped from the Internet, you know. |
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How well do diamonds burn? |
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//How well do diamonds burn?// They may need a little bit of help to get started, but they burn rather well. |
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I wouldn't suggest trying to increase the amount of diamonds used as a form of carbon sequestration, but getting people to buy manufactured diamonds instead of mined diamonds as a symbol of carbon sequestration, could be a good marketing ploy. |
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Also, while more carbon is released in the process of making diamonds than would be contained in the diamond, I don't think anyone has analyzed how the energy to manufacture a diamond compares to the energy it takes to mine a diamond. If manufacturing diamonds took less energy, and manufactured diamonds could captured some of the existing market rather than expanding the market, this could result in a net reduction in CO2 output. |
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From [link];
"I did a quick calculation for the Ekati diamond mine, which has been nationally recognized in Canada for its emissions reductions. The mine's operations create 143 pounds of carbon dioxide emissions per carat mined — five-and-a-half times what it takes to make synthetic diamonds."
So I imagine it's a matter of scale. If you are screening diamonds from the silt of your local low river then synthetic would be worse ecologically, but otherwise making them is better. |
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Thanks for that link [2 Fries]. The link didn't actually work, but Google found the quote. |
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I didn't expect lab created diamonds to be that much better. |
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// they burn rather well // |
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Indeed ... heat them up with an OxyHydrogen blowpipe and then drop them into LOX ... spectacular, brilliant, enthralling. |
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We remain baffled as to why your species has this enduring fascination for some crystalline forms of common minerals, often ignoring their useful physical and mechanical characteristics. Although we have noticed that only about 50% of the population seems to express this fascination with glittery, sparkly things.
Research continues. |
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[8th] I think you are confused with the idea where
we mine the diamond at Jupiter's core |
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//hmmm, what's the carbon footprint for this sequestered carbon?// |
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Excellent idea. The carbon is compacted into diamonds and the diamonds are buried deep underground where they won't cause any problems for thousands of years. If we did this with all 7 billion tons of carbon burned every year, that would make a diamond cube 8 miles on a side, or 32,000,000,000,000,000,000 carats, or 4.5 million carats for each person in the world every year. (Of course, they wouldn't be distributed to the people--that would be communism. And since each carat requires several pounds of carbon to make it, the entire carbon reserves of the planet would be used up in the first year of operation.) |
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//We remain baffled as to why your species has this enduring fascination for some crystalline forms of common minerals, often ignoring their useful physical and mechanical characteristics.// |
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Well you say that, but possibly the majority of us here are interested in the physical properties and hence potential uses. |
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Vernon, for example, would quite like access to the odd enormous diamond for its heat transfer properties. If they did become cheap, I imagine that they'd find many applications. Copper-bottomed pans? Nah, use diamond! |
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Woops. I pasted the quote as the url. Thanks eh. |
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I don't see why the big flap over equestrian carbon,
anyway. Some folks have their dearly departed pets
stuffed (though it never turns out the way they want), so
why are we trying to stop horse owners from having a
beloved companion compressed into a precious jewel? |
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I once found on a bus a torn English test with half
an article about how diamonds were introduced
into Japan, within a few years, from a country
where marriage was done by eating rice from the
same wooden plate, to the second largest
importer of diamonds. |
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The wonders of the internet are that I found the
article. See link! |
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I've been fascinated with advertising ever since. A
few years later I worked with advertisers on an
"inventiveness workshop". I was exposed to the
way they work, and how they create the
campaigns that change our lives - usually working
on our bad side. |
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I hope some day to market better behavior and
friendship via advertising (I have most of the plan
written, and its sustainable money-wise...) |
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This idea could work. Perhaps add some kind of
digital RFID that makes it worth more embedded
inside. |
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A major modicication to a diesel dpf could result in
diamonds for all. |
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