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Wikipedia says cryogenic treatment causes "less
electrical
resistance", "instantaneous"[crystal structure change].
Google scholar has references to undoped, nonelectronic
silicon nitride (a semiconductor) changing it's hardness
with cryogenic treatment.
Cryogenic treatment may effect semiconductors
and
optics. Google scholar has zero items on a search of
(semiconductor "cryogenic treatment"), so the field is
open.
A very simple version of this halfbakery
category:business
item is: pop other people's CPUs and GPUs and even
intact
game consoles into your $400 alibaba -86c freezer (-80 is
"soft cryogenic treatment") to improve their
performance.
A more lucrative version is to screen the 100 most
common
electronic components with a cryogenic treatment, see
which ones improve, and then use a university
technology
transfer office to develop the idea with patents and
royalties. 1% of the semiconductor market is several
billion dollars.
Don't feel like the big action? Make money from doing
piecework treatment of computer parts or cryogenically
treating intact gaming consoles once you verify it works.
Specific products: Do -86 C (“soft cryogenic treatment”)
cryogenic treatment of CPU/GPU/SSD and then see if it
can
overclock to higher speeds (or at SSD have more write
cycles) without degraded performance because all the
little atoms are now lined up differently from cryogenic
treatment Apparently it is completely new
electronics/optics (fiber optics) efficiency and
moneymaking territory. Silicon nitride is effected, what
is
the effect on Si, Ge semiconductors? What is the effect
of
cryogenic treatment on raw wafers and in-process
semiconductors?
Ypu can find out, or pay someone on fiverr.com to find
out
for you, and use a university technology transfer office
to
get patents for you, and royalties.
A less involved approach is simply to send someone on
fiverr a bag of electric components you have already
measured, have them put it in their -86 or -170 c lab
fridge
for 48 hours, unopened, and have them send it back to
you. Which of the 100 most common electronic
components have improved or simply changed? (change -
-
>new latitudes in materials science) Submit those to the
university’s technology transfer office.
Estimate of $40-60 at Fiverr as the cost, including
shipping,
to know if cryogenic treatment of a CPU, GPU, SSD, bag
of
100 devices (including laser diodes, and magnetics like
inductors and Generators), increases CPU/GPU/SSD
performance so you can start an instant business freezing
stuff for computer enthusiasts and perhaps even do
entire
cryogenically treated game console for gaming
enthusiasts.
So that's two business Ideas. If you are a student you can
just ask you biology or physics department for access to
their -86, -170 fridges. Physics might let you use their
liquid nitrogen (-195), but you can verify benefit on
fiverr
with other people's refrigerators cheaply.
All of these ideas, including the cryogenic treatment of
all
semiconductors and optics to improve performance, and
increase the materials science latitude of the attributes
are public domain.
There's supplemental technical data, just write to me at
treonsverdery@gmail.com if you would to read notes on:
How to make the most money with cryogenic treatment
of
semiconductors and optics, and systems that take
advantage of and improve on cryogenically treated
semiconductors and optics.
Extra halfbakery content: annotators, what's your billion
dollar invention? drag it out of memory and write it for
fun! Getting grandiose at a PE ration of 20:1, and
earning
1% of all semiconductor value, this has a company value
of
100 billion.
128gig Samsung 850
https://ssd.userben...o-128GB/Rating/3483
[bs0u0155, Jan 04 2021]
Frozen RAM, forensic recovery
https://ro.ecu.edu....20data%20recovered.
[bs0u0155, Jan 04 2021]
Immersion cooling fluids
https://www.shell.c...cooling-fluids.html
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//pop other people's CPUs and GPUs and even intact game consoles into your $400 alibaba -86c freezer (-80 is "soft cryogenic treatment") to improve their performance.// |
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So if it was cold once it will eject heat more easily? Despite consisting of dozens of carefully arranged alloys, semiconductors, heat pipes, heat spreading layers, magnetic field shapers, and so forth? |
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You may as well say "subject them to powerful electric fields", "bake them at their maximum safe temperature for 30 hours", or "gently sing to them" Only one of these, including the original idea, will leave them unharmed. |
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In summary, think what you're suggesting is: Putting
electrical components in a very cold place for a short time
may cause large, permanent improvements in their
performance. Is that right? |
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Well, probably many humans who visit Antartica return with inproved personalities |
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It would be better if some remained there permanently, however. |
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Quite apart from the stresses on components caused by differences in coefficients of thermal expansion, this idea doesn't address the problem of induced crystal phase changes in those components and the eutectic alloys used for soldering... |
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The "business" seems to involve putting customers in a situation where they need to buy a new games console. |
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// you’ve not heard my singing. // |
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Is it worse than your poetry ? |
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// Haven’t tested any electronics against my poetry yet. // |
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Well, at least there is a rigorous methodology available for testing. Are you likely to be in the top three ? |
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You will need to work hard to displace Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings from the top spot. The Azgoths of Kria are formidably capable, and the Vogons have few serious rivals. |
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Is it possible that [beany] is a Vogon ? |
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That's looking increasingly likely ... |
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No, that's just us scratching ... something else. For important stuff like this, we use our Favourite Crayon, Montgomery. |
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You should feel honoured .... |
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//but because I'd had my fill of survival training in the
military and didn't feel like another round.// |
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Shirley that means it worked? One thing that being pushed
into a hole in the ice and then being shouted at to crawl out
of will tend to do, is breed a healthy resistance toward
being in icy holes in the first place. By not wanting to do the
training, you demonstrated that the training worked, which,
bizarrely, disqualified you from the job that required the
training. Can we call this catch 22a? |
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Right. There is now a 128gig SATA SSD in my freezer. I ran
the benchmarks over at Userbenchmark.com <link> and it
sits in the middle of the meat of the distribution, despite
being quite old. Let's give it 48Hrs and see what happens. If
that doesn't work, I'm willing to move to LN2. |
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// The "business" seems to involve putting customers in a situation where they need to buy a new games console.// |
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I apologize. I had missed the genius of the whole idea. [+] |
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//If that doesn't work, I'm willing to move to LN2.//It's your ilk that make the world a better place, you meritoriously pointed individual. |
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// I had missed the genius // |
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It's easily done ... don't beat yourself up about it - we'll be delighted to do that for you. |
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When, that is, we've finished with [xenzag] ... |
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Ha! I've just learned you can freeze RAM etc. To preserve
content for forensic reasons <link>. |
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Many users would actually be quite upset if their RAM freezes ... |
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...as would sheep farmers |
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//Many users would actually be quite upset if their RAM
freezes ...// |
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// ...as would sheep farmers// |
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The bs0-co line of woolen RAM cosy products are positioned
well for this new niche market. |
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You mean sort of, er, wrapped round the, er ... parts ? |
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You do know that they stop working if they get too hot ? |
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//stop working if they get too hot ?// |
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It's a fine line between LN2 and little woolen RAM hats. |
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I'm due a new PC soon, knowing the IT dept. they will
manage to make it some sort of punishing downgrade. So
before I crack and spend perfectly good grant money on
IT stuff to compensate, I might use whatever lamentable
mini-Dell that arrives as experimental apparatus. I could
keep the various components cool by submerging the
whole thing in a few gallons of methanol, phase change is
the way to go if you want to extract heat. If methanol
doesn't work, I can keep going. |
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Methanol may degrade some components over time. There are some good LMW silicone oils with appropriate electrical properties, and reasonable specific heats, although some forced circulation might be needed for cooling. |
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The ideal liquid would probably be some PCBs, which can be extracted from vintage electrolytic capacitors, although there are some whiny ecofascists who bang on that chlorinated aryl compounds are in some way bad ... |
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//LMW silicone oils with appropriate electrical
properties, and reasonable specific heats, although some
forced circulation might be needed for cooling.// |
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Back in my youth, I built a glass case for an old computer
(Athlon 1100 no less) and filled that case with some flavor
of Shell transformer oil that was hanging around in a
neighbor's garage. It needs nothing more than the gentle
convection and leaving the heatsinks on to stay silently
cool. My plan was to find some form of thermochromic
hydrophobic dye to visualize the hotspots like a lava
lamp. I didn't get there. Where I got, was realizing that
oil likes to creep up PVC cables, attract dust and smell a
bit. Overall, air cooling won that challenge. |
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[bs0u0155] It is wonderful you are testing it. |
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The simplest millionaire product test that comes to mind is either a laser diode or a white light LED bulb. |
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The idea with the white LEDs is kind of interesting, an engineer might make a "period table" looking array of identical white light bulb LEDS of say 40 temperature steps (-195(LN), -155, -115...0) and 11 duration steps (24, 22, 20...) hours. Then glance at them as ana array and find any that looked particularly appealing. |
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I think there's money in Kerning color temperature, and of course an engineer would try running them overvolateg or overcurrent to see if the cryogenically treated LEDs lasted longer |
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OLED or QLED custom formulated for cryogenic treatment could effect every modern monitor/media display produced if the color values can be Kerned to something companies and people like better. And, if the OLEDs and QLEDs last longer then that's a benefit as well. |
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[bs0u0155] is well on the way to getting a 1% royalty on all light bulbs and TVs manufactured with his active actual research! |
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