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So far, the only smartphone I've seen with an option to restore the
device to its factory default settings without also deleting all data
stored on it is an iPhone. Almost every non-smartphone in existence
has this feature. Similarly, Blackberry is the only smartphone with
an
auto-power-on
feature
for the alarm. Leaving these 2 basic features
out of any "fully-featured" smartphone should be considered false
advertising, along with the Palm Centro's unique inability to be
powered off without removing the battery.
I know a certain amount of this falls on the manufacturer, but the
idea
here is for the FCC (and whatever its international counterparts are
called) to draft a list of basic features that must be included for a
device to legally be classed as a smartphone (which customers
frequently must pay higher data plan, insurance, and contract
termination fees for).
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[21] I think you are basically a free-market guy,
aren't you? The market provides these features,
just not all in the same model phone. So, you buy
the one you want, you get happy. No?
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So you are arguing for gov't regulation of the word
(the requirements to use) 'smartphone,' (like using
the word 'organic'), right?
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The term 'certified organic' is regulated because
consumers would have no other way to know the
difference. With phones, the features are obvious,
aren't they? (Btw, I have never owned a cellphone,
smart, or otherwise (gasp!). I don't have these
headaches.) |
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Actually that's just the problem. Smartphone feature lists
indicate such things as GPS, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, PC sync, corporate
email support, battery life, and the operating system. Things
you'd expect to be basic and included aren't listed, and by the
time you realize the little things are missing you've already
bought the phone. And I shouldn't have to buy an iPhone and all
its problems just for that reset feature, or a Blackberry with its
oft-occurring JavaScript errors (which require tethering to a
computer to fix) for the alarm feature. |
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Is it a problem of failure to read closely enough, or
deliberately deceptive packaging/advertising?
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I just have an aversion to getting the gov't involved if
something can be fixed without it. You may have a
point that this is a job the gov't can do best. |
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I don't know if it's deliberately deceptive in the sense that
packages very
rarely ever list features they don't have, but it's got to be a
deliberate omission of the feature in the device. These
manufacturers include the same features in all their non-
smartphones, why leave it out of their smartphones? |
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Calm down, [21]. Deep breaths. The red mist will go away eventually.
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You need to put this sort of thing in perspective. If you demand stuff like this, pretty soon the Governemnt will be doing all sorts of crazy stuff, like limiting child labour, abolishing slavery, and even thinking about giving the vote to married women over the age of 40 (as long as they vote the way their husband tells them).
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It would just be a slippery slope ... |
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[21]Y'know, I'm really beginning to see your point. I
guess
you're saying force manufacturers to give
consumers
clear and specific information about what they are
getting. Hard to argue that.
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Do you think there a lot of other products sold like
this? That seems like a pretty naive question, but I
thought if we came up with some other examples
where this issue has occurred, we could examine
the
solutions (there must be some) applied to them. |
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// give consumers clear and specific information about what they are getting //
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Maybe the Government should be forced to so the same, as in, "We're spending all your money, and what your kids will earn, you're screwed, and we DON'T CARE ! MUHWHAHAHA !"
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As an election manifesto, it would be short, but honest. |
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[8th]//As an election manifesto, it would be short,
but honest.//
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Should bring in the votes, too, you'd think. |
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Information about phone features is readily availale on the internet. Buying a phone is a big decision, so doing some research beforehand is common sense. On the other hand, buying food is a small and quick decision, so mandating things like nutritional values and country of orgin makes sense. |
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Maybe consumers could do a bit of research prior to purchasing their "essential" tecnobaubles?
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That way the manufacturers would begin to provide those features that were being sought by customers. As it is, I suspect most mobile technology, smartphone or otherwise, spruiks many features that are mostly useless or overly complicated to access and use.
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Buyers are apparently buying the advertised features of the technology, without regard for the fact they are actually seeking the benefits of a few of those features being present in the devices' capabilities. ( i.e. If you want a hole, you buy a drill. If you want a photograph, you buy a camera.)
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Smartphones try to be too many things to too many people, therefore I'm giving this idea a [ + ]. I've had a few of them and have been largely disappointed. If you want an expensive paperweight, buy a smartphone. |
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Is this or is this not a rant? |
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This is a call to action. |
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Less a Let's All, more a Make Them All. ;-) |
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When in Rome what ? Try to make the Italians do the same as everyone else ? You're on a loser there .. |
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You don't have to tell me, [8th]... |
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I opened this assuming it was a joke based on the
FCC/Broadcast radio's crazy plan to mandate FM
receivers in cell phones, but you seem to be
serious so let me be.
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Shut up, sit down and don't encourage the
government to get anywhere where market forces
do a better job. There is a case for saying this
idea is a WIBNI, but just throwing in the
government to remove the niceness. But on to
the idea...
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Just so you know any Android phone will restore
to factory default and then reinstall all your data
as soon as you put in your password. This even
works across different phones. To my knowledge
iPhones do not, they are simply extensions of
iTunes, so when the phone goes wrong you can
just drop a clean image from iTunes down on your
iPhone. To me that makes an iPhone not a
SmartPhone, but a computer accessory, but that is
just my opinion and it is not generally agreed to
except maybe in countries like Japan where they
lack personal computers so they don't like iPhones.
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This is my opinion and it may be dumb, but I am
not suggesting that it be backed by law because
that is really stupid. By the end of the year there
will be five(5) OS contenders for your SmartPhone
dollars, BB, iOS, Android, WinM7 and Symbian. You
and i will find issues with most and possibly all of
them, but people will vote with their wallets and
the market will produce better and better
products till people are reasonably happy, that is
unless somebody decides that they know best and
starts mandating features.
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PS I choose Android Driod I, rooted and
overclocked, soon to be a Droid 2 World, but still
waiting for the dual core 1.5Ghz demon that
Motorola promised especially if it is hooked up to
some high def projected 3D glasses. |
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[marked-for-deletion] let's all. |
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[IT] It is a judgement call as to whether Symbian
is a SmartPhone OS, but it is the world most
popular Mobile OS, so it deserves a spot on the
list. The N8 has just released so they are
definitely still trying. WebOS(2.0), is doubtful by
the end of the year and WebOS(1.0) is so weak
now.
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But by some time next year it will be BB(V6.0, just
came out with it but soon to be replaced),
QNX(What BB is using in the Playbook and supposedly in future phones, WinM6.5/7, WebOS,
Android, iOS, Meego and Symbion V3. Though I
may have missed one. |
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Actually, the only data Android restores is your contacts and
calendars. Apps still have to be manually redownloaded one at a
time, and browser cookies, cache, form data and bookmarks get
wiped out and
have to be setup again. |
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