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Most industrial-age people have some extraneous chemicals in their bodies (see link). I was thinking about using some kind of super dialysis machine that (for instance) filters heavy metals, to get rid of them and wondered if the new medicated stents used by surgeons could also be used to create permanent
valves which people could use in dialysis. I suspect this is a bad idea simply because any crap in your body is likely to wind up in fatty tissue rather than the blood stream... Maybe hook up dialysis to an exercise machine of some kind? I'm fairly sure that this has not been tried, simply because most people who need dialysis aren't super-healthy, and also because thrashing around with one of these machines traditionally hasn't been a good idea. It might be easier with a hardy interface and a relatively gentle exercise that none-the-less burned off some calories and potentially sent a few body-burden-type chemicals on an otherwise-brief loop through the circulatory system.
MSN on chemicals & body burden
http://content.heal...57_00000_8200_ah_01 Article about body burden chemicals [cloudface, Oct 05 2004, last modified Oct 17 2004]
All-purpose dialysis link
http://www.ikidney.com/iKidney/home.htm Kidneys-R-US site [cloudface, Oct 05 2004, last modified Oct 17 2004]
Chelation Therapy
http://www.quackwat...pics/chelation.html [bungston, Oct 05 2004, last modified Oct 17 2004]
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So the idea is to create permanent blood valves for use with (still to be determined) dialysis machines? |
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Problems I see:
a) Anything internal sticking through your skin will never really heal, and will be an entry point for bacteria.
b) If you're really thinking of home use, you'd better make the whole thing disposable. I'm not sure I'd trust my ability to clean yesterday's blood from my exercise machine to a sterile level. |
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I'm not sure it could be made safe enough for anyone to use who doesn't really need to use it. |
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People on dialysis already have permanent artificial "stents". Usually these connect an artery and a vein. |
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As for dialysis type treatments that you don't really need but you could have because you think they might help (is that the idea here?) - there are plenty of invasive things people undergo in an effort to cleanse their bodies of perceived toxins. High colonics and "chelation therapy" are two that spring to mind. Whether or not these folks would be willing to make love to the machine to achieve their goals is another question. You would have to have a good sales pitch. And herbs. Herbs always help. |
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Having read this again (months later) I
wonder if you couldn't take it a step or
two further; not only getting rid of
heavy metals, etc. (OK that's starting to
sound medically dubious, even to
me) which might be stirred
up during exercise, but make the
machine a sort of dialysis-supercharger
that simply scrubs out fatigue
chemicals and adds stimulants and
hormones in measured doses to allow
for a longer, safer workout. ps Thanks
to bungston for the link to chelation.
Luckily, here it's not quackery, it's
halfbuackery... |
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