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It seemed like people were able to rationalize and
understand the world intelligently, at the turn of the
19th century. The study and discoveries in electricity
and biology, aerodynamics and thermodynamics,
atomic physics and psychotherapy all seemed to be
leading to a true and complete understanding
of the
world, removing superstitions, and making the world
"a better place".
Then came the big political upheavals, Stalinism and
Hitlerism and Maoism and some say Kissingerism,
followed by Chaos theory, Islamic Selfism, Nihilism and
GreanPeace PETAism, all leading to war, violence,
death and destruction.
Somehow it seems that due to our bio-limitations we
have gone wrong somewhere, and cannot get it right.
So the idea here is to establish an artificial
intelligence not bogged down by human desires, that
would see and understand the world as it is, and
automatically cope with it.
It would take into consideration all human aspirations
and would know game theory and politics, so that it
could figure out how to react to human behavior as
well as natural phenomena, worldwide.
I have no idea what the outcome of such intelligence
would be, but it may decide on a better way of
government or of dismantling governments altogether.
In any case, any understanding it has, will be paired
with actual plans for actions to be taken in
accordance with the Artificial Intelligence's
conclusions. These of course will be thought out well,
simulated automatically, analyzed and compared, and
will include ways of gathering information about the
plan's progress and fine-tuning the events as they
unfold.
The output will not be 42.
http://en.wikipedia...nway's_Game_of_Life
[rcarty, Dec 17 2012]
Robotic Nation
http://marshallbrai.../robotic-nation.htm
A dramatization of what this could look like [sninctown, Dec 19 2012]
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We've been telling you this for the last
decade, and would you listen? |
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I imagine a megasuperultracomputer running extremely
mind-bogglingly complex games of 'life genesis' or 'games
of life' and crossmatching every possible eventuality to
constant satellite surveillance of human behaviour
patterns. |
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I suggest a new title, because artificial intelligence is not 'original'. |
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What I'm claiming is that the old school artificial
intelligence, simply emulating a Turing test machine, is
dead, baked, and in any case the wrong way to go,
because it is too artificial and not aspiring to be too
intelligent. |
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What we need on the other hand is a whole new
paradigm of Artificial Intelligence with a capital I, to
save the world. It will truly be artificially intelligent,
and at the same time intelligently artificial. |
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If truly intelligent, it wouldn't be artificial. |
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However, if an identical product can be
produced by two methods (e.g. ethy alcohol
by fermentation, or by catalytic oxidation of
ethane) is the term "artificial" appropriate?
"synthetic" might be a better word. |
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// I think this solution might save the world...
but not humanity // |
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So, basically, the idea boils down to "invent artificial
intelligence at let it run the world" ? |
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... a concept which is thoroughly explored by Isaac Asimov. |
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"wont work" - the enemy of invention. |
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Max - yes. But with several assumptions: a. That
there is objective truth. b. That best practices and
solutions can be found and implemented for every
problem. c. That a sustainable solution for life on
earth, without killing anyone, while retaining nature
at its best, allowing for comfortable conditions for
anyone seeking them, can be achieved. d. That
smart solutions are ones that can administered, in
other words - an intelligent solution is one that will
work. |
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Robopocalypse - not really intelligent. There are
always ways to solve problems without destruction
and decimation. That's what inventiveness is about,
and the Artificial Intelligence should be able to
figure that out. |
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I once took a shortcut in Jerusalem through a park
and reached a parking lot, where a young woman
asked me if I could help her with her car. Her
problem was that someone parked diagonally in
back of her. She asked me to join a few other men
who were standing nearby, and she wanted one
more man so that we would pick up the other car
(which was a small Fiat) and move it. |
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Looking at the situation I realized that if she drives
her own car a bit FORWARD (towards the sidewalk)
and to the left, she could get her car into a parallel
position with the blocking car, and simply move
out. I told her so, but she was all into her idea of a
group of men picking up the blocking car. NO NO
she said. Just wait here. |
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A big burly man listened to what I was telling the
lady. He said: Listen Miss! Just give me the keys
and I'll move your car out. |
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She gave him her keys. He got in, ran the motor
real high, then put it into reverse and released the
brakes. BANG! Her car crashed into the blocking car,
leaving a big dent in both, but shoving the blocking
car aside. |
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Oh well, nothing happened, the man said, turned
off the car, and walked away. We all stood there
for a minute or so, in shock. The young lady said to
nobody in particular: What "nothing"? Look at the
car! We all shrugged and strolled off. |
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This story shows many features of natural
intelligence, to be contemplated. |
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You want a robot to be your mother, so you don't
have to think/work/worry ever again, unless you
want to? |
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Let's be a bit more specific about what you want:
-- guaranteed personal safety, income, food,
and healthcare to a typical first-world upper-
middle-class level
-- personal freedom to work
on what you want, associate with whoever you
want, and leave the system whenever you
want
--freedom to choose whether or not to
think about complex issues |
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I think this could be a pleasant society to live in.
Actually, I think something like this outcome is
inevitable as long as the current trends of
increasing robotic technology and nanny state
intervention continue. |
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This is a bit off the cuff, but if machine intellegence could be taught basic ethics and allowed to guide world governments, through shear reason rather than force,. then the end result would be a combination communist/capitalist state where there is a comfortable standard of living for every being while allowing room for those who wish to excell to be able to do so... organic and inorganic alike.
No individual human can see all of the possible variables and be able to change policy on-the-fly as those variables change, and design by commitee, while better sometimes, can not wade through the red-tape fast enough to keep up. |
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Bad guys ain't gonna dig it much though.
Pattern recognition by a thinking computer would make most crimes very difficult to pull off cleanly. |
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[2 fries] Again, read Asimov's Robot series, where that exact scenario is discussed in depth. |
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Then again, the bad guys would make a virus, and the
whole thing will go bad. |
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I read all of Asimov's books (I think) including his
anthology of Jewish science fiction, which I cannot
find a trace of on the web, and no one except Prof.
Shalom Rosenberg seems to have heard of it. |
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[Edit] ... OK! Just found it. The web evolved since I
last looked. |
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