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a vast quantity of rocket fuel is used in those first few seconds of flight when mass is heaviest, and they have to overcome all that inertia.
I propose a giant see saw instead of a normal static launch pad. On one side would be a giant set of counter weights and on the other the rocket. some sort
of mechanism would lock the counter weight in the armed position
During rocket launch the counter weight could be timed with the rocket ignition, depending on the stroke length and weight, it could provide that initial 10-50 M/S of force and reduce fuel consumption and rocket size significantly.
Much easier than building a miles long rail gun.
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But why would this be better than, say, building a
tall (really tall) launch tower and boosting the rocket
up it using an external power source? |
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//miles long rail gun// why not build a vertical rail gun ? Run the rocket up that. |
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see saw is cheap, rail gun is not as developed of technology. |
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I always wonder why more effort hasn't been put into rail gun launch technology |
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But also not very effective - a 'mile long' rail-gun
can accelerate the rocket over a distance of a
mile; a workable see-saw will act over a much
shorter distance. Assuming that, in each case,
you accelerate the rocket as hard as its payload
can survive, you're going to get a tiny fraction of
the velocity out of a see-saw. |
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(Suppose your see-saw has a travel 500m, which
would be a very, very big structure indeed; and
suppose it accelerates the rocket at 10G. It's
going to push the rocket for 3 seconds, giving it a
speed of 300m/s.) |
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I was rather hoping for an item of extreme playground equipment, loaded with dangerous substances like hydrazine, but I like it anyway [+] |
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//why not build a vertical rail gun ?// |
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If you send a rocket or something straight upwards, it'll come straight back down again. Rockets usually need to give their payload a hefty sideways push as well, to get it into a useful orbit. |
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I suppose this might work as an alternative to an ICBM, though. |
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// those first few seconds of flight when mass is heaviest // |
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Do you mean, "when the rocket assembly has the greatest mass" ? |
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// hoping for an item of extreme playground equipment // |
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Funny you should say that ... |
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// hoping for an item of extreme playground
equipment // |
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/// those first few seconds of flight when mass is heaviest // |
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Do you mean, "when the rocket assembly has the greatest mass" ? // |
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well technically the further you get away from the surface the less your mass weighs. But you're right I did mean the less mass you have, I remember some figure about how much it rocket fuel was used in the first few hundred feet, it was significant. |
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