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many many many ground effect boat planes have been
designed.
they are , old school.
modern day cruise ships do a pretty fine shop of cruising the
oceans with thousands of people at 20-25 knots. the problem
is that this is pretty damn slow if you want to fly a massive
city of people to
different places ALL the time. it really is
slow.
flying jet engines for massive boats have been developed
decades ago and succesfully flown many times by the russians.
but no one ever tried developing a jet powered flying boat
hotel, but ordinary propeller powered boat hotels were
designed liked the caproni. ca.60.
instead of perpetual decades long dream of re-animating the
idea of flying airship hotels ( quasi zepplins of old bringing
floating flying hotels back to life) ---building a flying hotel
for 300 people wouldnt really be that much of a technological
challenge.
the hotel can easily do 80 knots with jet propulsion and
massive huge blended wing body , with the vehicles bottom
about 10 meters from the sea surface.
in wavy conditions the sheer enormous weight of the wing
would power through any smallish wave crests and would
really be a robust system.
80 knots is a world of difference from 25 knots. you could
cross the atlantic in a reasonable amount of time. hell, you
could cross the pacific in a reaosnable amount of time.
more importantly you could easily outrun storms at sea. and if
you could not, you would still be big enough to wait them out
like a conventional cruise ship.
russian jet boat
http://en.wikipedia.../wiki/Beriev_Be-200 [teslaberry, Mar 11 2014]
anotehr russian jet boat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beriev_A-40 [teslaberry, Mar 11 2014]
the infamous caproni which crashed upon its first test flight
http://en.wikipedia.../wiki/Caproni_Ca.60 [teslaberry, Mar 11 2014]
Rogue Waves
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_wave [bs0u0155, Mar 11 2014]
Ekranoplan
http://4.bp.blogspo...-5w/s1600/58005.jpg [bs0u0155, Mar 11 2014]
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+ Ekranoplans are cool <link> |
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- They're a nightmare to get out of the water |
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// in wavy conditions the sheer enormous
weight of the wing would power through any
smallish wave crests and would really be a
robust system // |
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You might want to go and check the data for
sea conditions in the North Atlantic
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Another problem is speed. If you have
crowded sea lanes with most ships plodding
along at 10 - 15 knots, and then you
introduce a vessel travelling at 80 knots, see-
and-avoid becomes a bit more difficult. |
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I am somewhat shocked that the phrase "China Clipper" appears but once in the HB. |
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[ ] Usually I rubber stamp anything to do with flying boats but: jet engines are too noisy and lack fuel efficiency (the Russian ones are for military or S&R, not civilian transport); what 8th said - you need to be able to quickly hop up past "ground effect" on occasion; poor and passive aggressive posting habits are annoying. |
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Yes, [FT], so why do you continue to do it ? |
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A European luxury yacht builder is buying up and
refurbishing old Soviet Lun-class transports as toys for the
ludicrously rich, so this Idea is pretty much baked but not
what I'd call WKTE. |
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Don't take it personally, [tes]; all that means is that you
were second in line with a good idea. Have an
encouragement bun! |
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^^Well, it's not annoying to *me* now, izzit. Anyways, I confine myself to the annotations, and I've a doctor's note, for the mumbling. |
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"Hey, don't try to outweird me, eight eyes, I get stranger things than
you free with my breakfast cereal !" |
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<Arthur Dent> the <\Arthur Dent> |
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one who can quote from H2G2. |
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//I am somewhat shocked that the phrase "China Clipper" appears but once in the HB. |
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Well, the porcelain ones kept breaking up at sea, so they went back to making them out of wood. That's why mariners still say "you'd be a mug to get on one of those, my old china" and that's truth. |
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But anyway. Isn't this just a faster version of the Titanic? The [insert nationality of] captain decides to [do something highly inadvisable] because [insert very stupid motive]. |
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You could use most of the internal volume of a dirigible as passenger area by replacing the N2 with H2, creating a rather effective yet breathable lifting gas, sans all those heavy containment bags. Just sayin'. |
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