h a l f b a k e r yI think this would be a great thing to not do.
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GEEK SCOUTING!!! I'm sure that there are
many organizations, groups, classes and
clubs concerning geekdom and the stuff
they learn... but nothing as unified as
boyscouting..
Boyscouts: it is cool, yeah... i was in it..
but it is so outdated concerning, you
know, things that matter nowadays..
. like
computer skills and technical stuff..
Idea: start Geek Scouts.. ok, it doesn't
have to be named "geek scouts",, but it
should focus on geeky stuff... like putting
together computers and OS's and
programming in the many different
languages... and hacking... ...ethically.
I'm sure the american economy would
appreciate it.. if teenagers were able to get
programming jobs like they would get a
McDonalds job..
Or we could all just rely on our public
educational system and get very stupider.
Choots!
(Formerly?) Baked: BSA "Exploring Program"
http://en.wikipedia...couts_of_America%29
In the 1960s, the Boy Scouts of America "Exploring Program" included "Explorer Posts" hosted by companies with major computing complexes to encourage youths to pursue a career in computers. [land, Jul 06 2006, last modified Jul 10 2006]
Geeks in Nature
http://techref.mass...ther/robogarden.htm
So the geeks still get some connection to Mother. [James Newton, Jul 06 2006]
Staged Activity Badges: Information Technology
http://www.scoutbas...adges/staged-it.htm
A Geek badge for those aged 6-25 [[ sctld ], Jul 09 2006]
In the Oven: SAS LabRATS
http://www.sas.org/labrats/
Society for Amateur Scientists is /trying/ to bake this now. Give Generously :-). [land, Jul 10 2006]
Homosexuality vs Child Molestation
http://psychology.u...ts_molestation.html
[jutta, Jul 11 2006]
Geek Scout Merit badge
http://archives.cnn...03/geek.scouts.idg/
[xandram, Jul 12 2006]
[link]
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They could learn how to untie knotted and
tangled computer leads. A somewhat puny
idea [twitch], but nevertheless deserving of
a modest half bun + |
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Affirming and mobilising geeks - good [+]. I do have some misgivings about the uniforms though. Would anyone like to sketch something suitable? |
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For the uniforms I'm imagining t-shirts with the Geek Scouts logo, photographer's vests, ratty jeans, and hiking boots. |
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In case a mountain should suddenly spring up in the server room. |
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i like it, but hope that the whole religious
aspect will be left to the boyscouts. i admit
that i was a cub scout, and even a boy
scout for a couple years, but the whole
righteous thing kind of bugged me. |
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I'm with tcarson -- the geek scouts (w|sh)
ould leave religion out of it. Maybe the
geek scouts could push back against (boy)
scouting's insane homophobia. |
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As for uniforms, I think grubby jeans and
logo t-shirts from Apple, Google,
Microsoft, and the like should serve nicely.
Anyway, that's what I see every day on the
grown-up geek scouts in my office. |
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Leaving out religion is okay but please teach them some ethics - you don't want to school a fleet of wannabe script kiddies, spammers and crackers. |
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You get my bun if it also includes English spelling lessons. Maybe we could even e><t3rm1n4t3 1337-speak!!!1! |
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I love this idea, one of the best I've seen here. |
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One thing I would like to suggest: Include some items of biotech or agritech. The kids need to have a little connection to mother nature and there are a lot of areas where some respect for the environment, nature, and the limits of man made technology are missing from current geekdom. |
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My boyscout can beat up your geekscout... |
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You could make them a wiccan organization... |
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except that geeks spend so much time indoors they might not understand the concept of a nature goddess. |
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I can't wait to get my D20 merit badge... and my Star Trek the Wrath of Khan merit badge... and my comic book collector merit badge... and my glasses taping merit badge. |
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Hmm, how to include nature... Maybe you could have a house plant merit badge, and a find the sun merit badge... OK, now I'm just being a jerk. |
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merit badges awarded for successfully
running logical circles around jocks who
attempt to state their reason for bullying. |
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I suppose when i worded this "geek
scouts", it carried a less serious tone
with it. I was leaning more towards
what {James Newton} had mentioned,
about studying a serious side of
geekdom.. let's not say geekdom, let's
say, science scouts, probably more
appropriate. More concerning things
such as green technologies awareness,
protecting the environment, and of
course, ethics. They would be the
hackers and fiddlers of many of the
general sciences. |
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Ethics is a little shady... because many
ethical guidelines are based on religious
morals. |
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Requirement: merit badge for personal hygiene. |
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I can see the religious wars between the Mac Geek Scouts and the Windows Geek Scouts. The Linux Geek Scouls would be broken into too many factions. |
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Oh, and I remember getting a Computing Merit badge when I was in the Junior Infantry. One of the few I got, most of them involved too much social interaction. |
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[UnaBuba] The available crime statistics show no correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia. Implying that connection might inspire the less informed and more violent members of our "society" and lead to more gay beatings or even deaths. I would hate for my lesbian daughter or any of my gay friends to be further injured by that little bit of misinformation. |
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Please do go check for yourself. Gays are no more likely to be pedophiles than us breeders. |
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Any anyway, although I am 99% married breeder, I am also 1%, totally, flaming, GAY! I find about 1 man (man, not boy) out of 100 attractive. And I might get involved with Boy Scouts or Geek Scouts someday... |
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Anyone nervous about that? |
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I'd be nervous if I knew a halfbaker is teaching my son survival craft. Why, next thing you know the cat is endlessly spinning in mid-air and Council is calling to make sure everything is ok. |
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Seriously though, I think you need to re-read [UB]'s annotation. He is not implying that homosexuality is related to paedophilia, merely that paedophiles seem to be attracted to the boy scouts (and I would hazard to guess that a not-so-deep analysis would tell you that this is true - paedophiles would target boy scouts because they get to spend lots of unsupervised time with impressionable boys). |
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I certainly hope that is true, but why mention homosexuals? |
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Not homosexuals: homophobia born out of prejudices engendered by the behaviour of a group of deviants that also happen to be homosexual. And I suspect the remark was just brought by the fact that we were discussing the boy scouts. |
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We've been using "homosexual" as a shorthand for "male-on-male", but that's inviting confusion with "homosexual" in the sense of an adult sexual orientation. Specifically, it's an error to think that a male pedophile who's molested boys is also by default interested in men when choosing adult partners - just like mature homo- and heterosexual males have been equally disinterested in children of either sex. (See link for details.) |
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To avoid any incidence of pedophilia, the geek scouts should be led exclusively by robots. |
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//You could make them a wiccan organization// |
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Hmm. Sky-clad geeks? I hope not. |
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I might post "Gay Scouts". That would
start a few arguments. |
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i like [jutta]'s idea of leadership by robots.
maybe we can utilize that in other forms
for countries as well. |
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Hey we tried to elect a robot in 2000. He got the most votes and everything. |
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//I might post "Gay Scouts". That would start a few arguments.// |
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Possibly. Look up the origin of the meaning of the word "camp" when used to describe a homosexual. |
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//“Camp” is derived from the French slang term camper, which means “to pose in an exaggerated fashion.” // - ? |
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