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I have on several occasions gotten ticked when my DVD player
freezes on one spot and falls flat on it's face due to the disk being
dirty or worn out, requiring me to eject, clean, and re-insert the
movie, then having to FF back to the area right after it, and
sometimes the player will freeze
up again because it got stuck on
the messed up area during FF.
I think it's the way the player handles losing the signal from the disk.
It seems as though it actually stops the laser moving and tries to re-
establish focus on the same area that it can't read, ignoring your
pressing of the FF or REW button, because once it "freezes" it stays
frozen until you stop and/or remove the disk, reguardless of how
long it sits, even if that's the only area of the disk that can't be read!
If the laser were moving AT ALL it would eventually find some
playable footage.
I don't mean to bash DVDs, but I remember VHS players being less
picky about the playability of the tape. The only thing that would
cause a tape player to stop dead in it's tracks is if
1. the tape actually ripped while it was playing
2. Some sort of malfunction, or a tape that has seen far better days,
resulted in tape salad
3. someone unplugged it :D
Anything short of an "epic failure" such as tape salad would be
ignored by the VHS player (but maybe not by you) and it would just
keep on moving along
I think that if the player loses the signal, it should try to re-focus for
a few seconds, then "bump" the laser ahead a smidge-about 30
seconds of video worth-and then try to re-focus there.
After all, as long as the disk is spinning at a constant speed, which
it should be unless the player is broken, and there is anything
"beyond" the anomaly that CAN be read, it should eventually be able
to find it. If it is unable to find anything readable after about a
minute of repeating the above routine, it will search for the next
"chapter marker" and if it can't find any chapter markers anywhere
beyond the "unplayable zone" which would realistically only happen if
the disk had some pretty major damage or contamination, the TV
screen will turn blue and say "The disk could not be read. Please
clean the disk and try again." and the screen on the front of the
player will say "dISC Err"
I believe that this would allow it to play very old, heavily used rental
disks-even those from blockbuster-pretty much anything that hasn't
been used as a frisbee or dropped in a pool
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I too am very tired of digital devices designed with little or no thought given to the actual use of the product. Is this mandated? I would be brand loyal to any DVD player that would let me defeat the "operation prohibited by disk" coding. I ain't lettin no plastic disk boss me roun'. Makes me want to smash things. ARRRRR. What are we going to see, or hear, when the disk player goes ahead and tries to read that scratch? Is it really that bad? I mean it better be fatal because AGGGRGRG! And you can bet that going back to the beginning of the disk IS NOT GOING TO SATISFY ME. NO! I WANT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE SCRATCH YOU B1t{#e$ !!!. Prissy POS is going to find out what a real "disk error is when i drop kick it out my second story window. JUST AS SOON AS SOMEBODY MAKES A BETTER PRODUCT. I WILL NOT BUY AN EXPENSIVE HD PLAYER, I WILL STEAL MY MOVIES. I HAVE BEEN PUSHED OVER THE EDGE. |
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"I would be brand loyal to any DVD player that would let
me defeat the "operation prohibited by disk" coding. I ain't
lettin no plastic disk boss me roun'." |
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What that probably means is that if you're trying to turn on
the captions, it is telling you that the disk does not have
them recorded on it-not all disks have captions on them.
the same goes for changing the audio track language. |
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If you're talking about skipping the anti-piracy warning, the
disk is probably set up so that you cant skip that so that
anyone thinking about copying the movie *and selling the
copies* may reconsider. (it is legal to copy things FOR
YOUR OWN PERSONAL USE, like maybe copying just the
parts you want, etc etc.) film makers lose sales when
people copy things and sell them for their own profits
without sharing them with the studios, so they'll do all
they can to stop it! :D |
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Also, it's not as though the VCR stops trying to do anything
when it reaches an "anomally"on the disk. what happens
that causes the VCR to get stuck is that the machine
seems to stop moving the laser forward, and fruitlessly try
to re-focus on the area that is scratched up. Either that, or
the tracking gets thrown off somehow by "major" errors.
After hopelessly trying to refocus ON THE SAME AREA that
it can't focus on for a certain amount of time, the VCR says
"disk error" or "please eject the disk and try again" |
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I don't care about trying to access data not on the disk, I just want want to be able to fast forward through the non-content BS that the studio wants to force me to watch. Forcing the end user to watch a "don't pirate this" advertisement that would be deleted from a pirated movie or that could at least be skipped is simply insulting. i don't care that the designers of the disk may desire me to sit through a lecture about. What next? An series of audible advertisements that i cannot mute? Consider what allowing the "disk" to dictate what functions of the player can be used says about the consumer. Would you accept a car radio that played advertisements for the newest car audio before it would let you hear the news? What about a browser that wouldn't let you change your home-page? My DVD player wasn't free, why should it be programmed to do the will of the studio rather than the command of my remote control? WHY? THERE'S NO GOOD REASON. NONE. |
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"My DVD player wasn't free, why should it be programmed to
do the will of the studio rather than the command of my
remote control? WHY? THERE'S NO GOOD REASON. NONE." |
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Yet another reason I miss VHS tapes. |
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Such distractions as anti-piracy warnings are there to allow us to brew a nice pot of tea before the film starts. |
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//Yet another reason I miss VHS tapes// That, and the 240 line resolution? |
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"That, and the 240 line resolution?" |
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No-the main things that I sometimes miss about VHSs are
1. the machines didn't freeze and keep trying to read the
same area that can't be read when a well-worn movie is
being played |
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2. It didn't matter as much if they weren't kept in their
cases, because they couldn't really get scratched unless
the front "tape protection cover" was missing which I've
never even seen happen. |
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One DISadvantage however is that an "epic failure" could
result in tape salad, but this only really happened if your
VCR was broken or, in some cases, even due to a very very
worn tape-it may have gotten sticky gunk on it, either
from mishandling or just because it was old, which caused
it to stick to things in your VCR and make a big mess! |
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