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Women get to call theirselves ms rather than miss/mrs why not men??
Or this
http://www.halfbake...20with_20adjectives
[mrthingy, Oct 21 2004]
Who are you calling "Ms."?
http://archive.salo...07/27/ms/print.html
Article from Salon about the usage and history of Ms., dating back to the 17th century, when it meant the same as Mrs., except Mrs. then mean what Ms. means now. [kropotkin, Oct 21 2004]
[link]
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how about mzer/mser or mzr/msr as the masculine ms? |
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Why have titles at all? What's with that, eh? |
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Perhaps everyone’s name should be preceded by a string of letters indicating connubial status, race, sex, and perhaps what or whom one is seeking (s).
MWFsMWM Pluterday |
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*Martial* status? <Miss Piggy> Hai Ya!!! </Miss Piggy> |
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I think the question should be reversed. Why do women's titles (Mrs and Miss) indicate their marital status, while mens' don't? |
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That’s because men are polygamous. |
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the equivalent of Miss is Master. Ms was a women's lib idea. perhaps men who believe in women's lib could also call themselves Ms. |
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Yes, Ms. was invented specifiaclly to redress the issue [PeterSilly] raises. |
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I don't think marriage has anything to do with it [dag] |
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Why would men want to call themselves ms anyway? |
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As po indicates, equivalent of Ms. is Master. Which explains how the equivalent of Mrs. is slave. |
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we already have this. in about 12 weeks, for instance, i'll be Dr. Taylor. not really on subject, but i can't help but brag. |
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not that kind of Dr., [thcgenius], but i can have a shot at it. |
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i'd like to call myself 'bespoke'. |
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BTW - In the UK, Master is reserved for men under the age of 18, irrespective of marital status. |
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Instead of adding them for men, I think it's better to get rid of the additional ones for women. This was the concept behind Ms., wasn't it? |
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Anyway, this is hardly an original idea. |
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That would depend on the title. Are you sure you are not arguing that you need to invent a new language to express 'original' ideas [waugsqueke]? |
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What? I don't quite understand that sentence. |
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// i'd like to call myself 'bespoke' // |
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<Groucho> I'd like to call myself a cab. </Groucho> |
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<Arthur Askey> I thang you! </Arthur Askey> |
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i say screw the f*ckin titles. were all humans after all. and
what about transexuals. are they going to want to have
titles now too?mrms? come on |
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Maybe what we need is a single title. Something that can include everyone. M. |
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but why? what is the point. i think we should just nix the
titles and get on with our lives |
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I have it as received knowledge that getting sex, ah, gender, out of the language is the single biggest reason for the dominance of English over all other languages. So sayeth M. Pluterday. |
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or, as someone has most likely already pointed out, use
titles that are common to both sexes, but that vary with
age or status ( not marital, but maybe by the amount of
money they make, or something else like that. |
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well along the same lines as (pluterday), english is i think the only language that doesn't destinguish between male and female in everyday conversations...........so if all the other languages can work with it why are we so concerned about what letters are in front of our name???? people in spain arn't complaining that all their words are either male or female.and can they please do away with that..so im not sure it's terribly important.however it would be helpful when going through a potential dates mail to know from his title if he was married or not =) |
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I like those science fiction systems where people have a single honorific, say H. (for Human, I guess). However, Sarita, even having a complete set of status-determining honorifics is not going to save you from those who misuse them. |
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I suggest we dispose of all honorifics, and call everyone either by their actual name, or "Oi!". |
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This frees up the word "honorific", so that we can use it more suitably - not as a noun, but as an adjective. |
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I'm kinda partial to Maam or Sir.........Now my lady friend calls me Smooth.... I kinda like that too................ |
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Except those that begin with man |
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manicure as just one example |
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Titles, titles, I want titles! 8th of 7, I like your suggestion. But I like a lot of others, too..."Sir", for example. "Lord", as well. Darth has a great ring to it....but.... |
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Ok, this just spawned a post of my own. Later. |
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We use 'san' in the Thames Estuary as well [omniglot].
Owight San! |
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Interestingly, although English has fewer gender-inflected noun and adjective forms than most other Indo-European languages, it has a lot of gender-reliance when it comes to pronouns. For instance in Spanish, it's a lot easier to leave off the 3rd person singular pronoun and just say for instance "did" rather than "he did" or "she did." French also has the usefully vague "on" which can refer to he/she/one/they/we depending on context. |
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An interesting science-fiction approach to pronouns, in Samuel Delany's "Stars In My Pocket Like Grains of Sand": "he" is used to describe both men and women, while "she" refers to any person you have the hots for. |
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Check out Finnish (and/or Turkish, Hungarian, Estonian) for gender-free languages. but I would love to see the day Finnish becomes a world language (a very complex language). there's no he/she/it in these languages, one word for all. No genders for objects either. |
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For men/women, bisexuals, homosexuals, transsexuals and titles, maybe it really is time to call them with their halfbakery nicknames and forget the old-fashined naming conventions. |
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Or.. would that spoil the fun for some sirs and deities? :) |
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It would certainly dampen the fun of role playing. |
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Ok, so um I'm the DARK LORD,
would that mean my prefix title
thingy-majig be Dl.? |
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