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Do you have an idea which has fallen
through
the cracks with only a few clever puns in
the
annos? Do you have an idea that has
more
technical substance than humor and
would
like it reviewed seriously?
Simply add the word
[marked-for-engineering]
to
the annos or body of the idea
and await
a
bored engineer to search for the tag.
The tag should be removed after your
questions have been answered so as to
not
flood the search.
*edit* NOTE: if the tag is added to the
body of the idea, the idea is not bumped
to the front page.
*edit 2* changed from boingbchakbchak
to engineeringhelpneeded
*edit 3* engineeringhelpneeded changed
to [marked-for-engineering] :)
here's one that is more humor than engineering
Alien_20Exploder
[marked-for-engineering] or not [dentworth, Sep 25 2007]
A view of all [marked-for-engineering] ideas
http://www.halfbake...-for-engineering_5d
not in the halfbakery category. [bleh, Sep 25 2007]
[link]
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Just a snort? No explanation? What's the
rub? |
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Although I appreciate some ideas on the HB can be solid technical solutions, I tend to like the ideas that follow in the spirit of the help file:
"The halfbakery is a communal database of poorly thought-out ideas for inventions." |
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Doesn't have to have any puns in it. In fact, I've gone off puns these days. They don't replace any real ingenuity in the ideas. |
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However, I am a bored engineer and I would (maybe) chip in my 2 cents to an idea that needed help... |
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I like it. It identifies ideas that you felt could do with further discussion whilst not shoving them back in to peoples faces. Ain't nothing wrong with that. [+] |
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However, with the ever increasing in-jokes and oddities we have here it won't be long before a gurp a gurp gurp. |
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// I tend to like the ideas that follow in
the spirit of the help file:
"The halfbakery is a communal database
of poorly thought-out ideas for
inventions."// |
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I agree, to a certain extent, but part of
the reason I love this place is that there
is a larger per
capita intelligence here than most other
places I have ventured. I enjoy a forum
where nearly
everyone is open minded and receptive
to an idea without immedately flaming
a bad idea
(unless of course it involves perpetual
motion or other bad science, but even
then they usually
explain the problem rather than flame).
There have been many cases where an
author genuinely
believes in an idea he has had without
knowing of an obscure physical law (or
an application of
a well known one), or without knowing
where to obtain the formulae to run the
maths. |
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There are several of you out there who
have a much larger depth of knowledge
in may areas
than the rest of us, and we may have a
larger depth than you. I long for the
days of yore when a
high school graduate had a complete
grasp of the most advanced technology
of the age. Now,
the case is more that you get out of
high school and pick a specialty and,the
rest of your
educational life is spent narrowing your
experience. It used to be a mile wide
and an inch deep, now its quite
the opposite. Sure, there are things
outside your specialty
which you must understand in order to
fully apply your knowledge, but Shirey,
the average
Textile Engineer has little knowledge of
Evolutionary Biology and vice versa. |
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[bleh] that day hasn't existed since someone decided to get out of the flint chipping business and start twisting grass into useful shapes. Specialization is what human culture is all about. |
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Why the nonsense word? Wouldn't "engineering help needed" do as well, and be easier to remember / type? |
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The nonsense word makes sure the search will only bring up ideas that have specifically asked for help. Searching for "engineering help needed" could easily bring up others... |
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EDIT - although it doesn't in this case. But it might! |
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//Specialization is what human culture is
all about.// |
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That's true, which makes my point even
more valid. Specialization often
necessitates collaboration. |
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csea's making my point:
// Why the nonsense word? Wouldn't "engineering help needed" do as well, and be easier to remember / type?
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If you're using a nonsense word, you're creating a little whirl of confusion in its wake. Sometimes that's what you want (e.g., it helps you distinguish the people who know the culture from those who don't, avoids accidental mix-up, etc.); but here, in the context of helping people, I'd forgo color in favor of clarity. |
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Good points about the nonsense word. if
you don't use the boolean operators the
search for engineering help needed
returns *several* results. However if we
collapse it into one word
'engineeringhelpneeded' that could work.
Though that means theleopard and I will
have to change our tags. |
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Searching for "engineering help needed" - with quotes - would work, too.
Boolean operators? What boolean operators? |
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so you'd prefer the boolean " " to
collapsing it to one word? |
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Why not [marked-for-engineering] ? |
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That's the first time I've heard "" referred to as boolean operators. Boolean operators are AND, NOT, OR, and sometimes EXOR - they operate on yes/no values - but not quote marks (who do something more complicated having to do with text next to one another in a certain order). |
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[marked-for-engineering] -- hm! It's legible, and it says "I'm something special, not just text", and we can have a help section on it that encourages people to put that in if they want help. |
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//the ever increasing in-jokes and oddities we have here it won't be long before a gurp a gurp gurp// |
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hasn't slowed you down any! maybe someday this entire site will be one big in-joke. and we will laugh and laugh every time we come here. *shudder* |
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I think he is mixing up booleans with regular expressions. The former often result from the latter, but they are not synonymous. |
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//I think he is mixing up booleans with
regular expressions.// I think he is too :) |
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[marked-for-engineering] seems best.
Why didn't you just come out and say it to
begin with theloepard? Now I'll have to
change my tags a third time. |
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Nice. Can we also have a [marked-for-translation] for those that don't speak Treon? |
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Since when did refrigerants have languages? |
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snorts is how I laughed. now I am thinking this is a pretty good idea. Unfortunately I'll have to remove the M-F-E tag from my "Alien Exploder" ,*sniffle* (sadness) |
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I didn't see one on your idea's page, only
on the link here, which doesn't show up on
the view I created since it falls in the
halfbakery category. |
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ok fine, I leave it now. *snorts and leaves* |
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I feel a bit embarrassed about the whole nonsense word thing - but always found interesting the methods used across different disciplines for creating and applying markers.
For example, in assembly, where a limited number of tokens (alphabet-things) are displayable (0-9,A-F) people might add arbitrary "words" like DEADBEEF or similar in order to add searchable bookmarks for areas of memory that were special, or needed to be revisited in some way. Similarly, a search in google-code for the string "be dragons" (from the famous Lenox Globe's "hic sunt dracones" map annotations) shows up all sorts of worrisome uncharted code.
People meeting in train stations might wear coloured roses, fezes (plural of fez anyone?), carry umbrellas, or affect funny walks - it's all the same kind of thing.
Anti-markers also exist - I remember looking at some of my Dad's building drawings (back in the day when you did these things with ink and all sorts of exciting rulers) and seeing an ink-blot, which had been meticulously labelled as a "Blob" so as to avoid the site crew accidentally spending a day casting an irregular shape in concrete.
Anyway, I think it's helpful for the poster to be able to gently signal whether they're looking for some (semi) serious analysis - though whether they should always trust it is another matter entirely (gravity IS caused by spinning) |
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Now to find time to actually help (or just add to the puns). |
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I appreciate the support for this guys, its
good to know I'm not alone. |
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Can I also suggest [marked-for-illustration] if you think, perhaps, an image would greatly assist the explanation of an idea or just be appropriate/funny etc? There are plenty of us here who would not profess to being an engineer, but I'm sure we have plenty of artists among us, of one form or another. Just send the artwork to the poster's email and if they like it they can upload it to an image site and link it. |
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Alas, I would like to have been a baker in the days of [Bristolz], I found a veritable smörgåsbord of her drawings recently and loved them all. Especially one of a plank of wood with a nail in it, which made me laugh no end. However, as a collective I'm sure we can produce artwork of a similar quality, which always brings some sparkle to an idea. |
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I'm in favor of that as well, I like
illustrations, but rarely have the time or
talent to pull one off. I'll use that if all your
illustrations have arrows pointing to things
that say "science". |
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