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"I am a part of everything" may be Zen-like, but "I am
everything" is just pure egotism talking. Is a gear the
same thing as the whole clock? Nope! |
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You-the-part is a very different thing from "the whole",
especially because of the huge degree to which the
Universe includes "redundancy" (unlike individual
clocks). It can get along just fine without you-the-
part.... |
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It seems logical, from the above, that a selfie always
has to include you-the-part. So, a picture you remotely
take of the Earth from
space qualifies as a selfie, even if you are on the
opposite side of the planet from the camera. But a
picture taken from the
ground, of the sky, that doesn't have any speck of "you"
in it, is not a selfie. |
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I suppose the preceding means I'm not a fan of Zen.
Hmmmmm..... |
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//a selfie always has to include you-the-part// |
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Unless its a selfless selfie. |
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A photograph always includes within its text - which is
broader than the image - an element of the taker. If you
were not there, not there with your camera, seeing the
image and taking the photograph, the photograph does not
exist. The narrative represented by the photograph
includes you. Thus, all photos are selfies. The difference
between these types of selfie is that only in one is your
duckface explicit. |
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That depends on how you define what you mean by a
photograph. |
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[calum], I will agree with much of what you wrote, but
there are occasional situations in which there isn't any
"you" associated with a photograph. Imagine telling your
phone to capture moving images, and then you accidentally
drop the phone without realizing you dropped it, say while
attempting to put it in your pocket while distracted about
something else altogether. Where is the "you" in the
pictures automatically taken by the phone while it is laying
on the ground? |
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I love the concept of a "selfless selfie". Love that. Buns for
[hippo] and for [FlyingToaster] |
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You could post your Zen Selfie on <cross-promotion alert>
the Single-user Social Network </cpa> (see link). |
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//Where is the "you" in the pictures automatically taken by
the phone while it is laying on the ground?//
It is a
selfie of your butterfingers |
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Well, y'never know... maybe once we figure out a way to look back at the universe from the outside we find out that we are all living on a sub-atomic speck of what turns out to be an entire universe for each consciousness, in which case, yes, a picture of anything would be a selfie. |
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Have the foto taken by a Swiss dwarf ? |
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Gnooooooooooooooooooooooooome |
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