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People have an annoying habit of not being accurate in their time measurement. e.g. "let's meet for coffee" "Sure, how about we meet at Runcle Mac Buncle's Uncle's café. when suits you?" "Great idea. I'll meet you there at 2.30 this afternoon"
What happens? They actually turn up and meet you at 2.29.47
catching you unawares and, quite frankly, ruining your day and setting what should have been a pleasant friendly meeting off into a depressing round of blame, recrimination, and setting up a life-long grudge and recrimination trigger.
Proposed is that any time, past or future, is specified in the form of hour:minute:second ± estimated error margin.
So our hypothetical conversation could instead have gone "Great idea. I'll meet you there at 2.30 ± 3.5 minutes this afternoon" and all would have been well.
Sensible people will naturally keep a tally of the expected and actual results of such scheduled events and can offer suitable feedback on your rate. "Actually, on average over the past 6 months or our scheduled meetings, you have been more accurate than that, but biased slightly to the early side. I suggest 2.30 +4.7 -0.9 would be a more accurate estimation of our actual time of meeting". "Thanks that's very helpful. But actually my toaster needs a new rubber O-ring and I am not sure how long it will take to buy it in Anastasia Gonard's Toaster and Doorstop Repair Supplies Warehouse. Hence my conservative estimate" "OK that's all right then! See you as arranged anyway!
https://sodabred.tu...aked-idea-by-xenzag
[xenzag, Oct 03 2020]
Flintstones Caveman time
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uq7noaMwLfg
[xenzag, Oct 04 2020]
I'll do it directly.
https://www.google....12&bih=612&dpr=2.63
[pertinax, Oct 06 2020]
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Do a search in the halfbakery for "time-twigs" and
let me know what you find? |
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I always use the suffix "ish" for this. People always understand "I'll be there 2:30ish" |
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And for the first time ever, I must remind all that there is no
such thing as time. I lost my watch a few weeks ago, and I
won't be replacing it. Read Ekhart Tolle. There is no time. |
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Here at Camp Teacup, the shop clock was consuming batteries at a ridiculous rate, so we just quit feeding it batteries. The spriteliest member of the camp taped a clever note to the front of the clock; it says 'NOW'. |
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How do you know things aren't happening all at once? |
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They are happening all at once... you just can't perceive it that way. |
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Thank you to those who have learned throughout life that
nothing exists but the present moment. The past is gone, the
future not here yet. This Moment. Time is just something man
named to keep things orderly. Before that, it didn't exist. The
cavemen didn't have time, did they? Time could be a concept
if you follow the sun and the moon and listen to your body for
signs that you need food or sleep. But even that is a made-up
reality. I believe. |
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//The cavemen didn't have time, did they?// I
distinctly recall an end of workday hooter sounding
in The Flintstones |
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I would think that the perceived precision is associated with
the way the time is expressed.
Eg: "quarter past two" is imprecise, so a large error margin is
implied, whereas "two thirty seven" is much more specific,
so a smaller error could be inferred.
I guess it's sort of "significant figures" (to be a maths geek
about it...) but involving fractions and a bit of weirdness. |
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Right [ns] but that implied vagueness is context-specific. There are some towns where "quarter past 2" could mean any time between 2:20 and 2:45, while in other contexts such as meeting someone from a train would imply something more like 2:11 to 2:19. |
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Hence the necessity for always using standard error notation to express the accuracy expected or required. |
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[pocmloc]; yes, that is true. |
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I'll think about this mañana... |
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<obligatory> We demand rigidly defined areas
of doubt and uncertainty! |
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No, we already have those. We just demand that other people tighten up their standards and express themselves clearly and unambiguously. |
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OMG...run, there's a Spider in the bakery and it's old and dusty
and hasn't been seen for a long, long, time. |
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