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A scooter with a string of dog harneses mounted behind it
so the dogs push you along. You'd steer, break and twist the
throttle that would give the dogs the go signal. Not sure
what that would be, speakers on their collars saying "Mush"
or something. Since they're pushing as opposed to pulling
like on a standard dog sled steering would be much easier.
Ummm, that's it.
Dogs pushing things example #1
http://www.youtube....watch?v=M1udFZy3fo0
[doctorremulac3, Jul 19 2012]
Dogs pushing things example #2
http://www.youtube....93ik&feature=relmfu
[doctorremulac3, Jul 19 2012]
Example #3
http://www.youtube....IEAk&feature=relmfu
[doctorremulac3, Jul 19 2012]
And 4
http://www.youtube....QWM&feature=related
[doctorremulac3, Jul 19 2012]
And 5
http://www.youtube....watch?v=nUrZGsNhaiU
[doctorremulac3, Jul 19 2012]
...etc...
http://www.youtube....watch?v=2kVD9zz_KJ8
[doctorremulac3, Jul 19 2012]
...etc.
http://www.youtube....watch?v=QLyv6egb59Y
[doctorremulac3, Jul 19 2012]
Semi baked
http://www.youtube....HOo&feature=related
Now do this with multiple dogs behind the scooter. [doctorremulac3, Jul 19 2012]
Urban idtarod
http://laughingsqui...1-in-san-francisco/
It's human powered, and totally out of control. I've done it a few times- its awesome., it's half baked for sure. [white, Jul 20 2012]
Pawsitraction
http://en.wikipedia...d-slip_differential
[normzone, Jul 20 2012]
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Well, good luck steering a dog sled in the city, they don't exactly turn on a dime. The final say in where a standard dog sled is going is after all, up to a dog. You coax and cajole, but the lead dog decides where that sled is going. |
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This solves that problem. Frankly I don't see why they don't do it on the snow version. |
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Actually, it just occured to me. The dogs being in front is a safety measure if you hit a hidden cravass in the ice. The dogs go over and you get to just jump off. That's not as necessary in the city. |
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Immediate bun for the title. |
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But, just like humans, your garden variety mutt is just as likely to push you into a wall, just for laughs, if you put it behind the sled. |
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See the previous anno, I've answered that. And
have you ever tried to steer a dog with a leash?
Good luck. The dogs are locked in place with this
and can only go forward, you determine where the
sled is going by turning the handle bar. You'd also
have to train a dog to be
steered like a horse. Again, knock yourself out if
that's what you want to do. This requires no
training. |
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Additionally, you can start this thing by pushing it
just like with a scooter. The dogs feel the pull,
see you moving forward and get the idea. |
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You wouldn't even have to signal them, just push
start it and go. Can't do that with a dogs in front
arrangement. |
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You also get to ride in style at the front of the
pack enjoying a much better view. |
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That's how it works with a regular dog sled. They
follow the lead dog. Only with this, the human
driver
is the lead dog. |
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//Dogs aren't bred for pushing,// |
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The he only thing that makes it "pushing" is that
you're in the front. |
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Here, let me simplify it. |
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Stiffen the harness stringer (whatever holds all
the harnesses in line) so it can
bend in turns, but not buckle if for instance the
back dog walks faster than the dog in front of it. |
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Replace the lead dog with you and a scooter. |
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Dogs aren't bred to push things? Sometimes you
just need to let it go 2. (See links) |
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Ok, mount them upright. Anything else? |
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And you fail to fathom that a dog with a yoke
around
it's neck feels only the resistance against
movement of that yoke. It makes
no
difference if it's attached to something that's
pulling, or pushing, or winding a watch. |
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It is ALWAYS pushing against a harness whether
you're in front in back or not there at all. There is
no
difference to the dog. |
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Ok looking for examples of dogs pushing things, I
found that
it's
almost baked. Somebody did this with the dog on
the side. |
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So my idea, take the one dog on the side, and
makes
it 2 or more dogs in back. |
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Dog pushing = proven. Quest? Gonna man up and
take that bone back? |
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Quite obviously they much prefer to push because
the steering's done for them, they're just
following their master as dogs are wont to do. I
notice that with the dog pulling arrangements lots
of energy is spent by the dogs trying to figure out
where they're supposed to go. They swerve back
and forth, hesitate, slow down. All of that
eliminated by giving them a clear leader. You're
steering it with a handlebar, a wheel and a human
brain
rather than a dog and a dog brain. It's a much
more effective arrangement. |
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This puts the human brain directly in charge of
steering bypassing the dog brain all together. |
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Thank you Quest, your grace in taking the bone back
is noted and appreciated. A tip of the hat to you sir. |
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Saw a problem with the side dog arrangement. You
bank too hard left on that thing, that dog on your
right's going
airborn. You're not only loosing traction, you've got a
dog up in the air, presumably pretty unhappy. |
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I think my design is solid. Bucket list thing to do #
3,056 = Build a 4 dog
powered one of these things. |
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I don't quite understand the steering problem: has no one thought of dangling a sausage on a stick in front that can be moved side to side and backwards to be over the dogs to stop? |
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That, or put them on a treadmill and use standard car controls (clutch, brake, gearstick, steering wheel). Changing gear might be initially confusing for the dogs, but if well trained, I think they would get the hang of running at a different speed to their movement. Naturally the cart would have to be entirely made of an extremely lightweight material. |
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This was an automatic bun for that freaky kind of halfbakery psychic phenomena whereas I was just thinking something similar the other day!! |
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That happens to me all the time on this site. One of
the reasons I like it, seeing that other people have
ideas just as wacky as the ones I come up with. |
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Station a bitch on heat at the desired destination and populate the sledteam with entire males. |
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On the dangers of sledding on wheels in the city, I speak
from experience. The urban iditarod team Santa nearly
pulled some "dogs" off their feet, and we just ran through
most lights rather than even try to stop. Making it a pub
crawl might not have helped... |
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I am in awe of people who manage to go the extra
step in life and do fun stuff like getting drunk and
driving a dog sled through the city. |
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You should see the kind of equally weird shit we get up to
out in the boonies, like snowbashing races. |
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Yeah, you're going to need some form of doggie posi-traction. |
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(Off to trademark the term "Pawsitraction") |
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